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MVP Plus upgrade to MVP 3

Discussion in 'Western Plows Discussion' started by Weaves, Feb 27, 2014.

  1. Weaves

    Weaves Junior Member
    Messages: 9

    Happy Winter Gentlemen, I was wondering if anyone knows if you can put the new MVP 3 moldboards on an MVP plus frame. I purchased the MVP plus new last year and it works like a champ, I was wondering if the the MVP 3 moldboards would work any better? Any thoughts?
     
  2. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,535

    No, the pin is larger on the MVP3 1 in vs 1 1/4
     
  3. 2006Sierra1500

    2006Sierra1500 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,758

    ^What he said
     
  4. Weaves

    Weaves Junior Member
    Messages: 9

    Thanks for the info. Can both moldboards, center pin and all, be taken off and the MVP 3 wings be put on? Does anyone have any thoughts about upgrading? Is the MVP 3 worth the upgrade from the MVP Plus?
     
    Last edited: Feb 27, 2014
  5. IA Farmer

    IA Farmer Senior Member
    Messages: 410

    With the money you would spend trying to turn your MVP Plus into an MVP3, which I don't think you could. I bet you could trade your plow for less money and Have a new plow. I love my MVP3 by the way.
     
  6. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,535

    What Ram say 100% right on cost. Best off buying new. The 3 also has a larger lift cylinder and new frame for light tower. The pump and wiring in really the on thing in common.
     
  7. nealybird

    nealybird Senior Member
    Messages: 716

    yea we've had quite a few guys trade in mvp+'s for mvp3's. they just keep all their truck stuff and trade in plow only.
     
  8. Weaves

    Weaves Junior Member
    Messages: 9

    Thanks for the info. About how much on average does it cost to upgrade. I know it depends on the condition of the trade in plow, which is only one year old and in excellent shape. Also, is it worth the additional cost to upgrade? I understand the with the larger center pin and larger lift cylinder on the MVP 3 the durability will be improved, but are they that much better and or necessary as the MVP Plus seems to be a very well built piece of equipment?
     
  9. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,535

    I just sold mine, put a ton of hours with one minor problem that didn't cost me any down time.

    I have both in 9-6 and was very happy with the MVP3. If you need to throw snow, that's the plow you want! If you need to stack, that's the plow you want!
     
  10. Weaves

    Weaves Junior Member
    Messages: 9

    Does anyone have a price estimate on switching out the Plus for the 3? If the truck side stuff will work, what are we thinking for a new frame and plow set up? What would a 1 1/2 year old gently used MVP Plus bring for a trade in / sale? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
     
  11. mishnick

    mishnick 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,243

    I don't see what the big deal is with MVP3 over the +. Same mount, control, wiring, lights etc. the only differance I see is the blade is bigger on the outside, the centre pin is larger and the lift ram is bigger. Stainless steel won't rust, that's great but has anyone considered that stainless "work hardens" and is likely to crack more than regular steel? Has anyone considered how expensive SS repair parts will be? Or how much more it will cost to weld SS? Also know that SS bolts may not rust but they seize, strip and break more frequently than regular steel.
    And I am wondering why people think this shape pushes or stacks any better than the +. It looks to me like snow would spill over the short centre when stacking. It appears to me that people just want this plow because it's new and different looking. People with big egos need to have the newest and shiniest. But is it really worth spending the money to upgrade from a perfectly good MVP+ when the only noticeable difference will b a more powerful lift cylinder?
     
    Last edited: Mar 8, 2014
  12. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
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  13. mishnick

    mishnick 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,243

    Still doesn't appear to plow any better than any regular steel MVP+. So why trade in a one year old MVP+ for the SS version or the 3 for that matter?
     
  14. Whiffyspark

    Whiffyspark 2000 Club Member
    from SOMD
    Messages: 2,402

    Looks. Ego

    They say it throws farther
     
  15. mishnick

    mishnick 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,243

    Well now we r getting some honest answers. If I had too much money and got paid to have pretty equipment I would buy two right now! But I get paid to move snow and fix plows. I have never had a customer ask me to bring a pretty plow, they just want their lot cleared. .
     
  16. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,535

    After owning both, I would say the 3 throws more and backblades better cause of weight. I also found it easier to see.

    actually it felt weird backtracking Against parking blocks and walks when I 1st got it. Thought wing was up on it cause of the height and slope.


    And Yes the 3 in SS is a badass looking plow. My SS should be sold off by end of month. I may just order one if I plow again next season.
     
  17. Whiffyspark

    Whiffyspark 2000 Club Member
    from SOMD
    Messages: 2,402

    It's gotten sad how much plows are going for. $7k for a plow? Pretty soon we'll be paying 10k

    It's made me look Long and hard at snow dogg. We don't get a lot of snow here but enough to make enough to get through winter.

    But my friend just traded his mvp in for a new ultra 2 pro plus. With a rubber edge.
    That plow is beefy as hell
     
  18. 05ram

    05ram Member
    Messages: 71

    Dose the snow stick any less on a stainless blade without any special treatment?
     
  19. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,535

    obviously we all have different overheads. Mine is almost non existence. My fuel is free, I replace the truck almost ever year. Plow every other year on avg. The MVP3 plowside I bought in November was 4200 and a complete tax write off. Sold it close to what I paid for it. I still have my SS Vee with some nice offers on it.

    My commercial insurance is my only real expense and that is cheap. Think its up 650.00 a year.

    I'm paid a good minute rate too.

    Will I buy a SS MVP3, most likely. Hell I still have a set of black wings for one.
     
  20. Whiffyspark

    Whiffyspark 2000 Club Member
    from SOMD
    Messages: 2,402

    Why do You go through trucks so much? Idle time?

    Do you ever miss the wideouts?