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MVP Can the old rubber center be replaced with the Plus steel?

Discussion in 'Western Plows Discussion' started by hoot, Jan 30, 2011.

  1. hoot

    hoot Senior Member
    from SE Pa.
    Messages: 156

    Is it possible to replace the rubber center edge with the newer steel design of the MVP Plus?
     
  2. michdeere

    michdeere Member
    Messages: 87

    I don't believe the bolt holes will line up. I sure wish they would though. I love my Western MVP's, but I gotta say, Boss has them beat on this one.
     
  3. hoot

    hoot Senior Member
    from SE Pa.
    Messages: 156

    Not sure what's so great about the Boss. Looks cheaper and I'm not sure how the full mold board will trip when in scoop mode. I bought my MVP 8.6 way back in 2003. I'm just now putting the first set of edges on. I don't plow commercial but I plow every year and these last two years I've been doing a lot of it. It is starting to get a little bent up. The trip edge assemblies are tweeked close to center. I had to heat them up and bend them back out. Also the top hinge is bent a little probably from a hard hit. It doesn't seem to effect anything. Been a great plow. No hydraulic or electrical issues to speak of.

    Mike
     
  4. michdeere

    michdeere Member
    Messages: 87

    It's the cutting edges and no center flap. Yes, the MVP Plus took care of that, but the Plus edges don't work with the old MVP. The Boss never used the rubber center flap. A good move if you ask me.
     
  5. collins590

    collins590 Junior Member
    Messages: 26

    There has to be a way to make them work. Pop some new holes in them with a torch and or bend them so they center properly. All you need to do it find a way to have each end of the cutting edge be directly underneath the plow pivot.
     
  6. shott8283

    shott8283 Senior Member
    Messages: 258

    now the center cutting edges for a Plus are separate pieces meaning the Plus has 4 sections of cutting edges correct?

    2 outer long sections and then just two short curved center sections ? so if one of us with a MVP can just find two center sections for a Plus so if it dont work out ..

    im thinking of trying this, my limited time with the MVP so far i already know i dont like the rubber center flapper thingy
     
  7. firefighter1406

    firefighter1406 Senior Member
    Messages: 328

    Let me know what you find out with this. I would love to put the new edges on my MVP.
     
  8. shott8283

    shott8283 Senior Member
    Messages: 258

    i will. having a hard time finding JUST the two curved center pieces for the trial. id hate to have to buy $400 of cutting edges for a plow I dont even own.
     
  9. got-h2o

    got-h2o 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,439

    No you're right, Boss didn't......they used that gay ass hocky puck! Those are terrible!

    As for the center flap, I'm not saying it's a brilliant idea......but I've never had a problem with them. I'll replace the assy every few sets of edges, and will change just the rubber pretty much every set if I let them wear down a lot in the center. It's a PIA to replace them I guess, but it does the job.

    My main Unimount MVP has probably had 6-7 sets of edges since 03, if not more...and again, no complaints here.

    The snowdogg V is the best edge design IMO. Similar to the Boss but tighter, and still maintains a trip edge. Those things clean like no ones business in all angles as well. A cheaper quality plow, but nevertheless........
     
  10. michdeere

    michdeere Member
    Messages: 87

    I guess my problem with the stupid center flap is the brackets that hold it. There's a TON of wear left in the cutting edges themselves, but the brackets that hold the rubber flap have worn down to the bolt holes, so the rubber falls out. You can't replace just the center parts. You have to replace it ALL. I don't understand why Western can't build a set of edges designed like the Plus edges that will fit the older MVP's?
     
  11. firefighter1406

    firefighter1406 Senior Member
    Messages: 328

    I agree with you one hundred percent.
     
  12. gib

    gib Junior Member
    from omaha
    Messages: 18

    when I bought my MVP in 99 it did have a steel center piece. Never had an issue. The rubber pieces are a pain. I did make a second hole for after I wore down the rubber
     
  13. shott8283

    shott8283 Senior Member
    Messages: 258

    you mean center steel piece like the bracket the holds the rubber flapper or an actual center steel cutter
     
  14. gib

    gib Junior Member
    from omaha
    Messages: 18

    It was 2 pieces of steel. They were just angled at about a 45 degrees. worked great. I'll see if I can round up my original paperwork, I'm sure it be in the diagrams.
     
  15. firefighter1406

    firefighter1406 Senior Member
    Messages: 328

    Gib, very interested in hearing about those edges.
     
  16. shott8283

    shott8283 Senior Member
    Messages: 258

    REALLY interested in what you can dig up Gib.
     
  17. gib

    gib Junior Member
    from omaha
    Messages: 18

    give me a couple more days, I just moved my shop, and things are in hiding in boxes.

    If I remember right, it was two pieces of steel, angled ant about 40 degrees and attached to inside edge of the cutting edge. The total length had to be around 12 inches. 6 inches on the cutting edge and 6 inches that angled back towards the center of the plow.
     
  18. shott8283

    shott8283 Senior Member
    Messages: 258

    yea no problem Gib. wont be needing it till next season anyway.

    from your memory, the idea sounds like its there, after going out and looking at my plow I can agree that would work.

    the million dollar question, did you use standard 1/4" low carbon steel or actual cutting edge graded steel?

    thanks!!
     
  19. Jim@esitrucks

    Jim@esitrucks Inactive
    Messages: 1,124

    There were a very few MVP plus plows that had a two piece cutting edge on them...the 45 was made on to the main cutting edge. I had a customer bring one in this winter looking for a replacement. Unfortunately it was a test or something by western and they ended up going with the way too expensive 4 piece design. Needless to say my customer was none to happy when I had to sell him the 4 piece replacement
     
  20. firefighter1406

    firefighter1406 Senior Member
    Messages: 328

    Any update on this. My MVP needs new edges this year and would love to get rid of the rubber flap.