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Most frequent problems???

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by SlimJim Z71, Nov 30, 2000.

  1. SlimJim Z71

    SlimJim Z71 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,031

    Just out of curiosity... what are the most frequent breakdowns you guys face? I'm going to get the spare parts kit for my plow, and maybe a spare belt for my spreader. But aside of transmission problems... what are some of the other problems you guys have? Thanks!!!

    -Tim
     
  2. plowking35

    plowking35 2000 Club Member
    from SE CT
    Messages: 2,923

    After long periods of plowing, I have one more than one occasion found loose rear lug nuts. So I check them every 5 hrs or so while plowing. Spare hydro line is a must. Also test light and, a few connectors,and electrical tape.
    Of coures a spare plow truck is always nice.
    Dino
     
  3. SlimJim Z71

    SlimJim Z71 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,031

    Dino,

    Do you torque your lug nuts to the factory specs? I read in my Chilton's manual that the lugs on my 1/2-ton are supposed to be torqued to 140-ft.lbs. That seems pretty high to me, but that's what I have them at. So far, no problems.

    -Tim
     
  4. Alan

    Alan PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,393

    Tim, we're running Sno-Way as well, watch the connectors where the wires go onto the various solenoids on the pump unit. Vibration will tend to stretch the female clip until they will pop off when you're plowing and you'll lose that particular function. Check them after each storm and crush them down a little with pliers if the are loose. Other than that, watch for cracking welds on the A-frame, particularly at the rear where the top plate is welded (sorta) to the channel iron side pieces. Once a year pull the moldboard and check for cracking around the pivot bolt bushing. Been there, done all of this. Sno-Way makes a decent plow but their welding qaulity control absolutely SUCKS!
     
  5. SlimJim Z71

    SlimJim Z71 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,031

    Alan,

    Are your running steel or lexan? Mine is a steel 25-series 7.5-foot. I have heard about the weld problems... so I'm keeping a close eye on that. I havn't heard about the connector issue though. Thanks for the "heads up".

    -Tim
     
  6. GeoffD

    GeoffD PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 2,266

    Electrical connections tend to be the most likely problem, however even those are few and far between. However when your employees have electrical/eltronics training, fixing these problems are easy.

    Here is our plan to keep breaks downs from happening. To this day we have never had to pull a truck out of service to fix it. Never a break down, if it snows the truck rolls, does this plan take some time yes.

    After a storm, every truck gets washed. Then I take one or two of my electronics guys, and they go over the plow, and any electrical connections that are needed for plowing. These guys are quick, the two of them can check a truck in 8-16 min if they had to. Then again they got about 1K in electrical meters to use. After that the plows are parked, and someone inspects the welds later in the day.

    Another thing to do, is set the trucks up early. Now is this is your daily driver it may not be an option. If it is going to snow tuesday night, we put plows on monday. First an operator inspection, and if something seams wrong, and quick electrical insprection. This way if parts are needed, the job isn't rushed. Then the guys can rest up during the day on tuesday.

    Geoff
     
  7. justa hick

    justa hick Junior Member
    Messages: 15

    our trucks are washed and inspected after each storm to
    and for the connectors on our meyers we put a piece of heat shrink over the connection i had a dodge ramcharger that the u joint on the shaft at the axle keep working lose.
    JB weld does work on threads
     
  8. plowking35

    plowking35 2000 Club Member
    from SE CT
    Messages: 2,923

    Trust me the lug nuts were tourqed way past factory specs. Here is the trouble with GM rims during the 80's. They use a ring around the outside of the rims that has the taper for the lug nuts, but the back side is flat. The flat side pinches the two rims to the hub. I think the cinstant Forward to reverse, over time, loosens the lug nuts. I had a rim just about come off one time, since then we check the lugs every 5 or so hours.
    Dino
     
  9. John Allin

    John Allin PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,327

    Duct Tape. At least one roll. Fix almost anything.
     
  10. cowboy

    cowboy Member
    Messages: 75

    dangit John Allin, just when I get that part of my obsession past me you bring up duct tape again, now people are going to start making fun of me again!

    Seriously though, on a Western V-Plow, anybody know what the most common failures are?

    Adam
     
  11. Cutter1

    Cutter1 Senior Member
    Messages: 243

    The most common problem we have is our hydro lines. We always keep a couple extra lines and we even buy two pistons at the beginning of the year. There is nothing worse than blowing a piston and having to wait in line at the store!! THe electrical connections aren't usually the problem, we spray the connections and tape them up real good at the beginning of the year with electrical tape.
     
  12. Alan

    Alan PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,393

    Tim,

    Both of our Series 25 plows are Lexan skinned. I'm kinda disappointed that the Lobo went to steel skins, people notice the Lexan more and we've got our number on the back of the clear skins, cheap, mobile billboard.
     
  13. jaclawn

    jaclawn Member
    Messages: 92

    My most frequent problem? Lack of snow.
     
  14. BRL

    BRL PlowSite.com - Veteran
    Messages: 1,277

    Ditto Jaclawn!
     
  15. DaveO

    DaveO PlowSite.com Veteran
    from Ma.
    Messages: 299

    Have to agree on that.


    Dave
     
  16. John Allin

    John Allin PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,327

    Can't really say that's a problem around here.
     
  17. DYNA PLOW

    DYNA PLOW Senior Member
    Messages: 295

    ZIP TIES, a wonderful invention,keep many on hand and in different sizes and colors too!
    had one of the solenoids come off of the pump and like
    Alan says you lose that function of the plow. fixed it on the spot with my zip ties.
    off subject but i ordered a urethane edge from Dino last night. when i get it on and use it i will be shur to share my thoughts.
    dan
     
  18. plowking35

    plowking35 2000 Club Member
    from SE CT
    Messages: 2,923

    I have had a western v plow or three years and no problems to date. The only thing is that it will use steel edges fast. We were only getting about 50 plowing hrs out of a steel edge, so keep extras on hand. We of course have switched to a different type of edge, but that is for another thread. Also the center rubber flapss are terrible, and piece of rubber 6-8" wide and about 16" long, will work much better.
    Dino
     
  19. cowboy

    cowboy Member
    Messages: 75

    I'll start a new thread to get new information!

    Cowboy