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Model # and fluid?

Discussion in 'Meyer / Diamond Products Discussion' started by leadfooter, Jan 1, 2007.

  1. leadfooter

    leadfooter Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 49

    I just bought an old truck with a meyer plow.
    1. How do i determine what model the pump assembly is???
    2. Is there a site that shows photos or a parts fich of I can see?
    3. How much fluid should be in the pump?
    4. Can I just use the hyd fluid I used in my old JD A's loader???
    Thanks
     
  2. Robhollar

    Robhollar Senior Member
    Messages: 766

    Goto the meyer website above and all your questions should be answered. Use plow pump fluid not just any ole hydro fluid. The one thing I will tell you is to make sure the lifting ram is all the way down, which meens you will need to get out and manualy push it down, when you check your fluid...Rob
     
  3. leadfooter

    leadfooter Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 49

    Thanks for the reply.
    The fluid in it is red?? Is Meyers fluid red?? if not its probably just some ATF correct??
    IS there a difference in AFT fluids (dextron, Chrysler) or just as long as its ATF will I be fine as I do not want to drain it all out currently??
    Thanks
     
  4. StorksAuto

    StorksAuto Senior Member
    Messages: 186

    If it is red you should drain it and put Meyer oil in. ATF doesnt do the pump any good. If you post a picture of your pump we can tell you the model.
     
  5. leadfooter

    leadfooter Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 49

    1. Here is a photo if anyone can tell me what model it is?? the motor says prestolite on it.
    2. Also the U shaped mount that is part of the pump assembly under the pump where the one large bolt goes through is broken/cracked right in the middle. It this weldable??. Is this common?? What causes it to break there so I can prevent it in the future?? Thanks

    Pump small.JPG
     
    Last edited: Jan 4, 2007
  6. StorksAuto

    StorksAuto Senior Member
    Messages: 186

    Ok this is an older E-47 pump
    Yes as long as the break does not leak fluid it can be welded but it is better to just replace the base and clean out the pump. If you can find a good welder you should be able to get it done for a descent price cause a new base is not cheap runs around $125

    They brake from being hit in most cases
     
  7. leadfooter

    leadfooter Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 49

    Hit ??? How could it get hit??? I don't follow?
    I would think that it rocks from side to side and stresses it there??
    Thanks
     
  8. StorksAuto

    StorksAuto Senior Member
    Messages: 186

    Most of the ones we get in with broken bases ran into something with the pump or I have been told by some E-60 people that they took the top bolt out and let it swing down to work on it and the pump snapped off but I dont know how it would break that easy
     
  9. lawnmedic

    lawnmedic Senior Member
    Messages: 703

    Every Meyer pump I've seen with the bottom mount broken was left on the truck year around.
     
  10. Lawnscape89

    Lawnscape89 Senior Member
    Messages: 213

    If you are going to change the fluid from ATF to Meyer, you should also drain the two ram cylinders on the plow at the same time. If you don't, you will be mixing the two fluids and you don't want to do that.
     
  11. IndySnowPlow

    IndySnowPlow Senior Member
    from Indiana
    Messages: 214

    Ummm Hello..... The so called "Meyer or Plow fluid" is nothing more than a medium grade hydraulic fluid 20w at best and is the same thing as transmission fluid. The color is the dye they put in it to identify it. And they sell it for like $7 - $9 per quart LOL.....:realmad:

    If you want a good quality fluid for any hydraulic pump go to like Napa - Carquest or your local hydraulic shop and get the high grade fluid that is used in large contractor equipment (case - komatsu - john deere etc. ) You will find out that it does not cost $7.00 a quart just because it says "Snow Plow" use on it.

    We run only the commercial grade fluid in our pumps and it works just fine at $8.50 per gallon.

    Emergency maint. TIP:::::: if you loose fluid and dont have any with you...you can always go to the closest Quicky Mart and get some vegetable oil...it will work enough to get your plow raised and you back to the shop for repairs.
     
  12. leadfooter

    leadfooter Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 49

    I have a couple gallons of "universal tractor hydrolic fluid" Is this suitable since its already paid for I hate to waste it. My system leaks and has atf in it right now but I only use the truck about 5 times a year just on our farm place???
     
  13. Whip

    Whip Member
    Messages: 87

    I have used 10w hydraulic fluid and even motorcycle suspension fluid and had no adverse affects myself.
     
  14. StorksAuto

    StorksAuto Senior Member
    Messages: 186


    I agree that there are some other good fluids out there that will work great some may even be better. But if you think ATF and Genuine Meyer plow oil are the same go ahead and run it in your pump and see how many problems you have. We rebuild a few hundred pumps a year and service a large amount of plows during any local storm and I can tell you there is a huge differance. If you have a bad leak atf will work and keep the cost down but we would not recomend using it long term.