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Mini skid steer

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by Lawn Enforcer, Dec 19, 2007.

  1. Lawn Enforcer

    Lawn Enforcer Senior Member
    Messages: 569

    Hey everybody, I am kinda thinking Im gonna go a different direction and not put a plow on my Jeep, but get a small used skid steer. I would do probably 15 driveways, all pretty close together. Anybody do drives this way? Bucket or blade? Blower? Pictures are welcome too! Thanks!
     
  2. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,046

    You better decide pretty soon or the winter will be over.
     
  3. QuadPlower

    QuadPlower PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,056

    Same neighborhood or does it have to be trailered?
    By mini skid steer do you mean a sit in version or the stand on the back version?

    I would start with the stock bucket and see how it works. You can always get an extra bucket and weld larger sides onto it for a "snow bucket"
     
  4. Lawn Enforcer

    Lawn Enforcer Senior Member
    Messages: 569

    Sorry for not saying this earlier, but this is for next year. I would just drive the skid loader from place to place. Probably like a 463 or a 553 Bobcat (that general size)
     
  5. Lawn Enforcer

    Lawn Enforcer Senior Member
    Messages: 569

    I would probably get a skid steer similar in size to this one. Nothing too big. I don't want it to take up a bunch of room in my shop or be too heavy for my trailer, if I ever need to haul it, which I wouldn't be hauling it on my plowing route.

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  6. WINTER 3

    WINTER 3 Member
    from Vermont
    Messages: 80

    I have a 753 bobcat and that is probably the smallest skid steer I would want to use. I don't have a blade for it yet (Used in winter for snow removal, and loading my sander). I'm not telling you not to but I think it would be really slow plowing, and transporting (time is money). If it were me the plow would be on the jeep.Hope this helps.
     
  7. Lawn Enforcer

    Lawn Enforcer Senior Member
    Messages: 569

    The driveways are not huge by any means, they are pretty small. A small skid steer would be a lot faster than my snowblower.
     
  8. Kramer

    Kramer Senior Member
    Messages: 386

    I think you'd find that the skidsteer would not be a whole lot faster than your blower---for at least one reason... blowers do an excellent job of making a clean looking area when you're done.... the skid can leave tire tracks and without a pusher, a lot of windrows to clean up. It takes more time to get the same quality in the end. The skid is a hoot to use, but not very productive. Don't forget that you usually have to go back later and do a quick cleanup from the town plow....also, during a large storm, multiple pushes really add to the windshield time. So 5-7 mph just isn't a real productive speed between houses.

    That size machine is great for sidewalks and really small areas, but short driveways are a lot faster with the jeep and a small blade. Trust me, I have a skid that size and also a toyota with a 6'9" fisher on it---- the toyota takes about 1/2 the time on a standard 1 or 2 car driveway---but I admit the skid's a lot more fun..
     
  9. Lawn Enforcer

    Lawn Enforcer Senior Member
    Messages: 569

    That's the thing, I would use the skid steer for other things, like small landscape projects I do. With the plow, you can only use it for snow in winter. I can get a descent small skid steer for about $4,000. Maybe get a plow for it too, anybody know of good brands for skid steers?
     
  10. Sbservices

    Sbservices Junior Member
    from DE
    Messages: 4

    Where to begin??? I have all Bobcats, 763, S185, S205, S300. We take the standard bobtach plate and with some fabricating attach it to a standard snowplow (2 meyer, 1 western, 1 curtis) All you need is the A frame and moldboard. I bought the western from a junk yard and spent about $1200 all told with the new hoses, flow reducers, wings, and paying General Rentals to do the fabrication. This set up is unbeatable.

    5 years or so ago we had a guy with a bucket, catch an island going around a bank teller and it brought him to a sudden stop. His hand went through the door of the skid loader and it looked like you slaughtered a pig inside. there was blood everywhere. He ended up ok after a stitches etc. but I will never let that happen again. all it takes is a man hole nthat sticks up.

    As for the model of skid loader, I like the 300 best because of the 12MPH. Understanding your needs at least get a S-150, 753.
     
  11. Lawn Enforcer

    Lawn Enforcer Senior Member
    Messages: 569

    I would like a bigger skid steer, but I can't afford a machine like that yet. Plus, as of right now, my shop is 12x30, and it is pretty full already. I've been looking at plows for the Jeep, but Sno-Way and Blizzard dealers are far away, but I found a Meyer dealer pretty close, so I'd probably go with Meyer. Anymore people with skid steers that plow? Thanks for all the replies so far!
     
  12. Krimick77

    Krimick77 Member
    Messages: 50

    I own a 463

    I have a Bobcat 463, I bought it brand new with cab, heat and blower and it is a terrific machine for what I do. I look after condo properties and I use it on the sidewalks and in some of the tight corners of the lots.

    As for what you are interested in doing, I would strongly recommend either buying a bigger machine or going with the jeep I use my 463 in driveways with the blower and it is pretty good if you are careful not to get to close to any drop-offs, ditches, etc... It does get stuck pretty easily.

    In my opinion, I could not do driveways with my 463 with either the bucket or a blade only with the blower and even then I prefer one of my trucks. You have to remember too, that a blower attachment is going to run a minimum of $2500 and it would be horrible to run the blower without a cab. ......... very cold and wet

    The 463 is a terrific machine in the right situations, but I would think again about the jeep, especially if you can't spring for the blower.

    Feel free to ask me any specific question you have about the 463. I'll be happy to respond.
     
  13. itsgottobegreen

    itsgottobegreen PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,351

    One of our subs has a 453 with a shop built cab and 5' cut down meyer plow. Its works freaking great on sidewalks. But I wouldn't want to try it on driveways, as its freaking slow at 5 mph. But will out work 10 guys with shovels.
     
  14. QuadPlower

    QuadPlower PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,056

    Sounds like everyone is saying go with the Jeep blade.

    If it is for next year, you have plenty of time to find other reasons to buy the SS other than snow plowing. At $4k it doesn't take long to pay for itself doing landscape jobs.

    I have seen used plows for under $800 that would work with your jeep to make it productive plowing driveways. Just have to look. They will be on-sale in the spring.
     
  15. Lawn Enforcer

    Lawn Enforcer Senior Member
    Messages: 569

    Thank you for all your advice guys! I will keep thinking about is issue. Any other comments or advice, bring 'em on!
     
  16. Lawn Enforcer

    Lawn Enforcer Senior Member
    Messages: 569

    I think Im gonna keep searching plowsite and think about this issue till next spring. Thanks!
     
  17. plowzilla

    plowzilla Senior Member
    Messages: 289

    I use a skid steer for half of my commercial lots (storage facilities). It is a medium size Daewoo and I love it. I also use it in the warmer months for side jobs. I say get the skid steer for sure. If your accounts are close, you will make the drive time up in plow time. You will be clearing those drives in 1/5 the time of a snow blower. And while you are driving to those drives, neighbors will be begging you to clean the end of there drives where the street plowers just pushed.
    Also, a plow will not make you money in the warmer months. Your skid steer definitely will- as well as cut down on your labor costs.
    And finally, the are a blast to move snow compared to a plow. Plowing is not a job if your having fun. Good luck
     
  18. NSRoadEng

    NSRoadEng Junior Member
    Messages: 18

    I plow about 30 driveways in my subdivision and I just rented an old Mustang 950 skid steer loader to load sand into my spreader in my own yard. Since the driveways are close (within 1 to 2 miles) I thought of using the skid steer to do the driveways, some of which I cant get around very well with my truck (06 RAM 3500 quad cab). During the last storm the skid steer worked great around garages, small turn arounds and loops. I use the truck to plow out the main straght sections of the drives and come back to do the rest.I probably takes more time to come back with the skid steer but I think it will save wear and tear on the truck (back and forth) and also possible damage from being in tight spots (already backed into t a tree). Also the loader is easy to spin around, great to pile snow or more around if needed. I have the opportunity to use it to scrape off built up ice by the hour. Well worth it.
     
  19. Lawn Enforcer

    Lawn Enforcer Senior Member
    Messages: 569

    Well, I found a guy who has a few 553 size Bobcats. I found a 6' snow pusher that would fit on a 500 series Bobcat. I would love to get a skid steer because of the versatility, I could make money with it in summer too.
     
  20. heather lawn spray

    heather lawn spray PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,206

    Couldn't have written it better myself, well said Krimick77 (2003 463, 2004 SB150 blower)