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Marking an asphalt driveway...setback?

Discussion in 'Residential Snow Removal' started by sns, Nov 14, 2012.

  1. sns

    sns Junior Member
    from MN
    Messages: 1

    Hi-
    We have a long, winding asphalt driveway...~500 feet or more, plenty of curves.
    I am going to install the fiberglass driveway markers so my plow professional knows where to go.
    But how far from the edge of the asphalt should I set them back here in MN? A few inches?
    A foot?
    Thanks in advance for advice...
     
  2. 04ram1500

    04ram1500 Member
    Messages: 97

    First off welcome to PlowSite

    Just ask your service provider how they would like them to be put in, and where. Although they should put markers in for you, after all they are the professionals that are being paid to do the job..

    Myself I put them in about 4" from the edge of the blacktop, but that's just my preference.
     
  3. seville009

    seville009 Senior Member
    from CNY
    Messages: 735

    I put mine a foot off. That gives me room to get the snow off the driveway without smacking the marker. It also helps the water drain off the driveway and not form ice when the sun melts it or we have a little warm spell.
     
  4. jasonv

    jasonv PlowSite.com Addict
    from kannada
    Messages: 1,114

    The key is that they need to be consistent. As long as whoever is driving the plow knows how far back they are from the road, they can follow them. If the plow operator has other marked properties, try to be consistent with his other properties so as not to throw in more information he needs to remember. He is working hard when it snows, so make it easy on him.
     
  5. WingPlow

    WingPlow Senior Member
    Messages: 634

    arent the markers there to mark the edge of the driveway so they dont tear up your lawn ??
    if so why would you put them back at all ????...i'd put them on the edge of the driveway...i,m fairly certain they'll have plenty of room to push the snow seeing how its only a little tiny stick
     
  6. Aveerainc

    Aveerainc Senior Member
    from NH
    Messages: 129

    I run 18 inches off so I don't smack them when making the side banks. On the flat part where I'm going right at the marker I place them directly at the edge so I don't rip up my lawn.
     
  7. Dogplow Dodge

    Dogplow Dodge 2000 Club Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 2,952

    I set mine back about a foot, as when we get really heavy wet snow, it tends to push the markers around when passing them.


    Personal preference, I guess.
     
  8. blazer2plower

    blazer2plower Senior Member
    Messages: 544

    About 18" on the sides and as close to edge for straight pushes.
     
  9. jasonv

    jasonv PlowSite.com Addict
    from kannada
    Messages: 1,114

    Sure... because everybody knows that plowing is so precise that the plow operator can aim for within 1/8th of an inch of the markers and not knock them off.
     
  10. WingPlow

    WingPlow Senior Member
    Messages: 634


    knock them off what ?
     
  11. jasonv

    jasonv PlowSite.com Addict
    from kannada
    Messages: 1,114

    What do you think?
     
  12. WingPlow

    WingPlow Senior Member
    Messages: 634

    if i knew i wouldnt have asked.....
     
  13. jasonv

    jasonv PlowSite.com Addict
    from kannada
    Messages: 1,114

    Ok, lets go through this step by step.

    Driveway markers.
    What is a driveway marker?
    -- it is a stick that sticks up so that the plow operator can see a path marked out.
    Where does a driveway marker go?
    -- on the edge of the driveway.
    How does it stay at the edge of the driveway?
    -- it is pounded into the ground.
    What device is being operated where the operator needs to know the location of the driveway markers?
    -- a SNOW PLOW.
    What does a snow plow do?
    -- it takes whatever it happens to come in contact with and tries to fling it off to the side.
    What happens if that happens to be a market?
    -- is still tries to fling it off to the side.
    So what does a plow marker get knocked off of by a snow plow?
    -- whatever happens to be holding it up. Probably the ground at the edge of the driveway.
     
  14. Dogplow Dodge

    Dogplow Dodge 2000 Club Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 2,952


    He's got to be pulling your chain, man!

    Knocked off.... that's like Bumped off, or wacked off, or concrete shoes or living with the fishes...

    Figure of speech for losing or breaking, or popping off one of your markers and losing it in a snow bank

    :laughing: You guys are too funny .....
     
  15. WingPlow

    WingPlow Senior Member
    Messages: 634

    ok so let me see if i have this correct

    you wont put your driveway markers...the things that mark the edge of the driveway ON the edge of the driveway because they'll get knocked down by the snow hitting them ??

    instead you'll put them "and just going by what i,m reading here" 12-18 inches OFF the driveway ???


    bet that dosent lead to alot of lawn damge huh.......



    guess its true what they say...your never to old to learn something, and here after nearly 40 years of plowing i thought i was doing it the right way :laughing:
     
  16. WIPensFan

    WIPensFan PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,489

    I usually put them 1-2" off the edge just because they won't pound in easily right next to the drive. I always want them as close as possible to the drive so no damage is done to lawn. I haven't seen them get displaced very often by snow unless its at the end of a push and you're stacking on them.
     
  17. jasonv

    jasonv PlowSite.com Addict
    from kannada
    Messages: 1,114

    I seriously hope that Dogplow Dodge is correct and that you're just screwing with me, because if you actually believe what you're saying, they should definitely take away your drivers license, since you're clearly not qualified. If the markers are right at the edge of the driveway, they are then within a fraction of an inch of where your plow needs to be. YOU ARE NOT THAT PRECISE OF A DRIVER and WILL run them down WITH THE PLOW ITSELF. Not the snow, the PLOW.

    Oh, and if they're the flexible kind, even if you ARE that precise of a driver (which you aren't, NOBODY is), the SNOW will bounce them out and they'll spring back and HIT YOUR TRUCK.
     
  18. WingPlow

    WingPlow Senior Member
    Messages: 634



    i just looked back thru this thread and no where did i see where i insulted you....

    i asked a simple question of why would you place so far off the driveway, but its ok i came to my own conclusion.
     
  19. Antlerart06

    Antlerart06 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,437

    I put them out a foot My wings dont rip grass and windrow away from the drive by the time mid winter the bank of snow is always at edge the road
    Some has a curb and them I'll put at the edge
     
  20. cubicinches

    cubicinches PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,412

    4-6" is what I tell my guys. If they are right at the very edge of the drive, the driveway inevitably becomes narrow over the course of the season as drivers rarely have the snow right out to within a fraction of an inch of the stake. 4-6" allows enough room to get right out to the edge of the pavement without ripping up the lawn or taking down the stake while trying to keep the driveway wide. My drivers also keep in mind that the stakes are 4-6" off the drive's edge.

    I'm not seeing it as something complicated enough to be having a huge debate over... But I do realize that without any snow to plow yet, coming on here and arguing about trivial crap is what we do... :D