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Magic Salt Storage

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by wxmn6, Sep 8, 2003.

  1. wxmn6

    wxmn6 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,037

    I am considering about renting a garage at one of my account. There is a couple apartment rooms above the multi-section garages. I am thinking about buying a few yards of bulk magic salt. My concern is about their armona smell. Nothing smell bad, but strong enough to notice it. If I buy a few yards of bulk Magic salt and store it in the garage, would it cause a problem for the tenant who live above the garage? Should I be concerned?

    Another question is .... if I have any left over Magic salt at the end of season, would they still be good enough to be used for the next season as long as it is stored indoor? Would the heat from hot summer days cause the armona smell of Magic salt to become stronger or not?

    Any input would be appreciated. Thanks.
     
  2. Mick

    Mick PlowSite.com Veteran
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,546

    Stephen, I mixed some bulk Magic last year in a two story 24'x24' garage. It was overpowering sweet when I mixed it, kind of made me sick. But didn't have any problems after that and it was stored in the garage. Didn't notice any smell upstairs and it's an open stairway. As far as staying good over the summer - I had some sand coated with Magic that was in the garage all this year with no problem. Didn't notice any odor either. Last winter, I had a couple of bags open from the summer before. Seemed to work just as well as the winter before. As a suggestion, how about storing it covered with a tarp to help confine the smell?
     
  3. wxmn6

    wxmn6 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,037

    Good idea Mick, that is exactly same thing I have on my mind. I think that covering the pile with tarp would help confine the smell. Thanks.
     
  4. CT18fireman

    CT18fireman Banned
    Messages: 2,133

    Ventilate the building. A small vent fan moving enough air to do a exchange of air say every 24 hours. Not expensive to run and probably good to balance humidity and such.
     
  5. Taconic

    Taconic PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 180

    You could also try Caliber treated salt as it works just as well as Magic salt but with no smell.Its blue instead of brown
    John Parker
     
  6. wxmn6

    wxmn6 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,037

    Thanks for your suggestions. I will stick with Magic Salt. John, I will be buying some from you sometime this fall. I have a dump trailer so I can buy a few yards of bulk Magic Salt and bring it home. :D
     
  7. A.J. Scott

    A.J. Scott Junior Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 2

    What exactly is bulk magic salt?
     
  8. wxmn6

    wxmn6 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,037

    Bulk magic salt are non-bagged product. They are basically the same materials as the bagged magic salt. The only difference are that they are not bagged and is cheaper buy that way.
     
  9. Mick

    Mick PlowSite.com Veteran
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,546

    A. J. Scott, if you'd like to discuss or try Magic Salt send me a Private Message (PM) or email.
     
  10. BeachGuy

    BeachGuy Junior Member
    from CT
    Messages: 15

    What about the bagged Magic Salt? Does it still give off a smell? I thought about storing a few bags just in side the door of one of my customers. I am just wondering if it would bother the employees. Any of the CT guys buy it from Watertown?
     
  11. PINEISLAND1

    PINEISLAND1 PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 664

    Most people I know actually like the smell. It is a sweet mollasses type smell, not obnoxious.

    I dont think a bag or two would be noticed in an office entrance.
     
  12. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,853

    Yeah, but Tom look at the people you know.:D :D :D :D
     
  13. BRL

    BRL PlowSite.com - Veteran
    Messages: 1,277

    Mmmm..... Yummy! My mouth is watering while reading this.

    Dino buys a couple of bags at the end of each winter just to have some on hand for snacks to be served with the summer BBQ's.

    I have found that the smell lessens in strength shortly after being stored, so if someone actually does find it obnoxious, it won't be for long?
     
  14. JCurtis

    JCurtis Banned
    Messages: 862

    When I was with my former employer, we stored as many as 10 pallets of Magic salt in our garage on the lower level of the boiler plant. There were offices directly above the garage and I never noticed any aroma from the magic in the garage let alone the offices.

    I tend to think that the plastic bags and the shrink wrap around the pallet contain the smell.

    Loose BULK Magic is another animal all together. Now that can smell up a garage quick.
     
  15. Mick

    Mick PlowSite.com Veteran
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,546

    BeachGuy, I think I should qualify what I said about Magic being overpowering sweet aroma. I mix my own Magic Salt. I use regular rock salt and pour Magic -0 over it. Most bagged Magic Salt is mixed at a ratio (I think) of about 4 gallons to the ton of salt. I'm mixing mine at a ratio of more equivelant to 8-10 gallons to the ton of salt. I'm also working with open 55 gallon drums of Magic -0 inside a small garage. Magic gets spilled frequently.

    I also have kept open bags in my garage that's attached to the house. There is an initial odor when the bag is open. This dissipates quickly and I haven't noticed any lingering effects.

    BRL, come on up and I'll dip out a glassful for you. Dark and foamy.... Cheers!
     
  16. nsmilligan

    nsmilligan PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 704

    Cheers might be more appropriate then you think, the brown colour, is party due to the organic additives, which I understand come from left overs from brewing.:drinkup:

    Bill
     
  17. PINEISLAND1

    PINEISLAND1 PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 664

    Thanks alot Mark....

    Just remember your on that list.....:cool:
     
  18. DJs Lawncare

    DJs Lawncare Member
    Messages: 90

    magic storage

    Has anybody had a problem with corrosion or anything like that when storing the salt over the summer. i have been putting my salt in my dump trailer every year. i would like to build a barn for my equipment with enough salt storage for about 3-4 yards.
     
  19. Parkplace

    Parkplace Junior Member
    Messages: 1

    What does Magic Salt Consist of?

    HI Guys, lots of talk about magic salt, what chemicals or natural products make up magic salt.

    Thanks
     
  20. Mick

    Mick PlowSite.com Veteran
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,546

    Parkplace: "Magic Salt™ starts out as ordinary rock salt, which is then treated with a liquid, agricultural by-product of the distilling process blended with magnesium chloride. This patented liquid is trademarked as Magic Minus Zero™ and dramatically transforms rock salt into a new de-icing material."

    More at:http://www.magicsalt.com/MagicSalt.html

    DJs Lawncare - Are you talking about straight salt or Magic Salt? I've stored Magic Salt from one winter to the next for two years now in 55 gal drums. No corrosion so far. The only corrosion I've noticed is to the wheelbarrow and shovel that comes in direct contact with untreated salt. I built a small wooden shed, open on one side, that I store salt in. I buy in the Spring when it's cheaper; then mix it in late Summer. If your building a shed for equipment, I'd suggest a seperate shed for storing straight salt.