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Magic And Pro Flow Ii ?????

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by FIREMAN Q, Dec 4, 2005.

  1. FIREMAN Q

    FIREMAN Q Senior Member
    Messages: 242

    Just got back from my first plowable snow of the year. It felt great to get out there and use all my new equipment.

    I did however have a little problem with my Pro Flow. I filled the hopper all the way up. I'm not sure exactly what the weight was. I went go salt and the conveyor belt would not move. I ended up shoveling the salt back out to the spreader and it eventually started working. I had to empty more than half of the hopper.

    So my question is for those who use the spreader and hopefully someone else uses magic also. Do you have any problems loading the hopper all the way???
    Any tips would be great. I'm not sure if it was just a fluke or not but thanks in advance

    :drinkup:
     
  2. jbutch83

    jbutch83 Senior Member
    Messages: 227

    We have never had a problem with loading it full. We acutally have an inverted funnel, to load with, and that lets it hold a couple hundred extra pounds, and never have had a problem with the belt.

    John
     
  3. eng50

    eng50 Senior Member
    Messages: 125

    I assume you are talking about a pro flo 2, did you try to diagnose it? Was it just the drag belt that was not moving, with the spinner spinning, or was nothing hapening? If nothing happened, then the overload light on the controller should have lit. The intermediate belt could have been slipping...

    Bill
     
  4. little pat

    little pat Member
    Messages: 83

    Did you say you had Magic Salt in there. If so, the salt may be wet. We had so many problems with Magic last year with wet loads freezing that we had to order a load of salt to get through the season. We stored the remaining Magic in an unheated barn over the summer hoping to use it early this year just to get rid of the crap. Well it didn't freeze up with temps in the upper
    30s but the stuff was still so wet it would clog the spreaders. NEVER AGAIN!!
     
  5. eng50

    eng50 Senior Member
    Messages: 125

    Magic, wet or not should go through a pro flo2, I had some last year as well, and it went through just fine. He said the drag sheet wasn't moving...

    Bill
     
  6. FIREMAN Q

    FIREMAN Q Senior Member
    Messages: 242


    I didnt have the time to diagnose it. I was already behind when I didnt spin. The spinner was spinning but the belt was not moving? I will have to get into the manual to check it out. Any Ideas to prevent that???

    thanks for all the replies
     
  7. eng50

    eng50 Senior Member
    Messages: 125

    Should just be a simple belt adjustment, when you pull the side cover off (two thumbwheels) it will be relatively obvious what has to be done. If you have any trouble call me, even if your out plowing..

    Bill
    804-339-2984

    You also should check the drag belt tracking, mine was not centered when I got it new! It can also cause excessive friction on the drag belt. Call me if any questions!
     
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2005
  8. FIREMAN Q

    FIREMAN Q Senior Member
    Messages: 242

    Thanks Bill, I took a look at my manual last night. I see the areas that I need to adjust. I will call if I have any problems.

    Are you on the Job???? Noticed the name.
    Thanks again:drinkup:
     
  9. eng50

    eng50 Senior Member
    Messages: 125

    Yes I am, here in Richmond. Looking forward to at least a small salting event today! Hope you get everything fixed! Call if you need anything,

    Bill
     
  10. nevrnf

    nevrnf Senior Member
    Messages: 456

    I ran a pro flo I last year with bulk treated salt with out any problems. Sounds like you have an adjustment issue with the belt.
     
  11. Rogerplows

    Rogerplows Junior Member
    Messages: 26

    Wet magic + tailgate spreader = disaster

    We just spent $2000 for a Fisher Pro Caster 2000, tailgate spreader. Last night was the first chance we got to use it. We ran Magic Salt through it and it was a nightmare. We spent more time getting out and shaking the dam thing to get it to spread. We filled it all the way, no luck. We filled it halfway, no luck. We put a 5 gallon bucket worth, no luck. We ended up spreading everything by hand. The Magic Salt was apparently too wet and simply would not flow. We got the stuff a month ago and covered it with a tarp. We were told by the distributor that we would only need a week or two and the product would be sufficiently dry to flow through the spreader. We bought 3 tons of the Magic Salt and it wasn't cheap. We're thinking of maybe using a bagged product, but thats gonna cost even more. One of our selling points that picked up alot of business was the fact that we were offereing the Magic Salt, so switching to plain salt wouldn't be a good thing to do right now. If this is any indication of how things are gonna go, It's gonna be a long season. I need some advice fellow plowers.:yow!:
     
  12. eng50

    eng50 Senior Member
    Messages: 125

    Magic and single stage spreaders don't do well together, despite what dealers may say. You really need a 2 stage, maybe you can exchange/upgrade? At worst try a vibrator, should make some difference. If possible also go back to the distributor you got the magic from and compare bagged to what you have and if yours is more wet, make them do something about it. The main distributor of magic in the US stands behind the product quite well. Hope this helps...

    Bill
     
  13. little pat

    little pat Member
    Messages: 83



    We had the same problem with Magic, too wet and won't flow through the spreader. Wait til it's really cold and it forms a block of frozen salt in all your spreaders. As far as the main distributor standing behind their product, doesn't happen. I called the local distributor and heard nothing but excusses so I called the main office in New York. I was told they would straighten out the problem and call me back. At least three weeks later I called the same person I had previously talked to and he claims he couldn't recall our conversation. B.S. But I told him the same story over again and he claims, again, he will straighten it out. Never heard from him and when I called back he wouldn't take my call. They don't stand behind the crap they sell at all. If I were you I would look around for a reliable product and use the so called magic on sidewalks if it's not frozen.
     
  14. JJ's Services

    JJ's Services Junior Member
    Messages: 17

    Fireman Back the set nuts off and tighten the belt 2 full turns on each side of the spreader evenly. You will have to do this about every 5th or 6th hopper full u run through right away as the belt tends to strectch quite a bit from new.
     
  15. FIREMAN Q

    FIREMAN Q Senior Member
    Messages: 242

    I adjusted the spreader earlier today. The belts and pulleys. I loaded the spreader full, waiting for the big storm tonight. I went around and tried it out with no problems. It just needed to be adjusted.

    "Rodgerplows" I would check your manual and make the adjustments like everyone told me. My last order of Magic was really wet compared to the order I just got today. I had no problem spreading only half full. I took me all of 20 min to adjust and grease the spreader today. I love this Spreader

    Thanks all for the advise.
     
  16. Rogerplows

    Rogerplows Junior Member
    Messages: 26

    I'll give it a shot Fireman. If all else fails, we'll just use the Magic for sidewalks and spread by hand ( I knew those coffee cans would come in handy someday). I wouldn't mind, but we bought the smaller tailgate spreader instead of a v-box to save some money, since we didn't have a whole lot of salting to do and really did look into things about the Magic. There was mostly positive stuff and minimal negative things about it, which would be that way with most any product I'm guessing. Best to get the bugs out now before we get hammered like we're going to this season and that's a very good thing.:nod:
     
  17. FIREMAN Q

    FIREMAN Q Senior Member
    Messages: 242

    I ran a full load today and had no problems. It just needed a tune-up.

    Thanks again for all the advice

    Rodgerplows let me know how you make out.
     
  18. Rogerplows

    Rogerplows Junior Member
    Messages: 26

    Fire,
    You have a two stage machine which is better than what I have. I talked to the Fisher dealer where I bought it from and he said there isn't much to adjust and didn't recommend touching anything. I'm thinking of raising the auger blade up just a smidgen or trying regular dry bagged salt and leave it as is to test it. I'll keep you posted. oh and I talked to the Magic dealer and he said he hasn't had any complaints yet about the product. He made many deliveries from the same batch and I was the first one to have a problem. Oh well, to be continued..........:dizzy:
     
  19. Rogerplows

    Rogerplows Junior Member
    Messages: 26

    OK,
    Today was the first test. I went out and bought a Karrier vibrator kit for my Fisher tailgate spreader. At first the Magic started to bridge, but as soon as I put the vibrator on, everything flowed smoothly (god that sounds so porno). Later in the shift, the magic got pretty wet and it did take a try or two more to get the flow going again after turning on the vibrator, but it did the job. I'm sold now! It was indeed a very good investment. Thank you to Bob Church at Karrier from Ron's Custom Auto.:redbounce
     
  20. Can u tell me what you generally pay for a small vibrator? anything cheaper than 200$ ? Thanks