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Lock/auto hubs on 2010 f-250

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by PPS. inc, Feb 7, 2011.

  1. PPS. inc

    PPS. inc Member
    from Earth
    Messages: 55

    Before I start I will say I did a search and looked tru a few pages. Nothing turned up. I have been plowing with them locked all season. Just talked to a fella with a 2010 f-350 and he says he never locks his in. I had to go clean a few drives and left it unlocked and deff. had 4x4. Should I be locking them in? I didn't think I would even have 4x4 when not locked in. Could someone please tell me the conditions when they should be locked or unlocked. From what I read here, many ppl including myself locked them at the start of winter and just left them unless I am going far on clean rds. or hitting the freeway. So what the deal here. Does the auto just constanly lock and unlock? Deff. confused here. Thanks for for the help guys. Couldn't be happier with the new truck. Ill get pics up sooner or later.
  2. NicholasMWhite

    NicholasMWhite Senior Member
    Messages: 175

    You're doing it right. You will not have 4x4 if you don't lock them in. Locking them in is connecting the wheels with the axle, if you don't lock them in the axle will be turning but the wheels will still be free. Having them locked when you're not using 4x4 does hinder your gas mileage so if it is a daily driver vehicle I personally would just lock and unlock them before and after snow storms. But it's up to you. Obviously if you only use the truck for plowing there is no reason to unlock them in between storms.
  3. qualitycut

    qualitycut PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 24,226

    I have never locked mine in they are auto locking you hit the 4x4 switch snd you are good to go. Older trucks that was the case newer ones have auto so you dont need to do anything but hit the switch. My 02 was even that way.
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2011
  4. toyotaplow

    toyotaplow Member
    Messages: 84

    I don't know why they say "auto" on the hubs. we have 2 250s at work and with the hub on auto they defiantly don't have 4wd.
  5. qualitycut

    qualitycut PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 24,226

    No truck is true 4x4 until thid years models they have s lever you pull out .
  6. thatlittleguy?

    thatlittleguy? Member
    Messages: 34

    With the manual hubs you need to lock them to have 4x4. If you unlocked them but never backed up they may have stayed locked giving you 4x4 even in the "unlocked" position.

    Auto locking means the hubs engage when you put it in 4x4. To unlock them you need to put it in 2x4 and reverse x amount of feet, then you'll be in 2x4
  7. Advantage

    Advantage Senior Member
    Messages: 766

    I have an 06 F350 and I believe that the manual lock outs basically serve as a back up if the actuator goes out and it won't lock by turning the dial in the cab. So if that happens, you get out and turn them from auto to lock and you're good to go.
  8. toyotaplow

    toyotaplow Member
    Messages: 84

    ah, that makes sense i guess. both of our trucks must have had faulty actuators when we got them because they never worked for us. what year did they start putting those style hubson the superdutys? we also have 2 older ones, a 2000 and a 2001 and they are full manual hubs. just curios.
  9. doubleedge

    doubleedge Member
    from ND
    Messages: 64

    The auto locking feature came with all Super Duties with an electronic dash mounted 4x4 shifter since the Super Duty was released (I believe). The more basic models with a floor mounted stick shifter (like my 2004 f250 and likely your two older ones) had manual hubs.
  10. chknman

    chknman Junior Member
    from IL
    Messages: 17

    Auto hubs are on trucks that come with the shift on the fly 4 wheel drive knob on the dash.The trucks with manual hubs come on trucks with the 4 wheel drive selector on the floor. The auto hubs have the lock option if the vacuum actuator goes out.
  11. chknman

    chknman Junior Member
    from IL
    Messages: 17

    Doubleedge we tpyed the same thing at the same time
  12. seville009

    seville009 Senior Member
    from CNY
    Messages: 694

    I have an 06 F-350 with the auto locking hubs. They died the first year. I just manually lock them at the beginning of each winter and unlock them in the spring.

    Of course I usually forget that they are not locked the first snow and start cursing when I think that my 4wd isn't working, and then I remember.........
  13. qualitycut

    qualitycut PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 24,226

    Locking it just makes both wheels turn with the axle all the time.
  14. 54powerwagon

    54powerwagon Senior Member
    Messages: 104

    2001 started the auto lock. if you get a xlt or lower it comes with the old style locking from end. so you have to lock the hubs. the auto is fine but i lock mine if its going to work hard. you can feel a difference from auto setting to locked when you turn the locked gives the old jerky turn fords have been known for.
  15. fiveoboy01

    fiveoboy01 Senior Member
    Messages: 101

    I've left mine on auto for the past 4 years. Pretty sure the 4x4 works that way:)

    Mine's an '06 XLT by the way. We also have an '08 XLT. Same thing.
  16. Pinky Demon

    Pinky Demon PlowSite.com Addict
    from Ohio
    Messages: 1,121

    Not true, you can engage and disengage through any position with the ESOF system up to 55 mph. No need for backing up anymore, even with the manual shifter.
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2011
  17. Pinky Demon

    Pinky Demon PlowSite.com Addict
    from Ohio
    Messages: 1,121


    It's more of an upscale option found on the higher trim levels.
  18. Mark Witcher

    Mark Witcher Senior Member
    Messages: 604

    Hubs that only have " auto" or "locked " position and no "free" position dont unlock the axle shaft.
    If you dont put them in lock position they will unlock if you spin the tires while backing up. The auto position is for normal driving. If you get stuck then you need to lock in manual position. All ford trucks with this type of auto lock hub, the axles dont disengage at the hub.
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2011
  19. greyst1

    greyst1 Member
    from 44720
    Messages: 72

    I have a feeling that the vacuum actuator on my 06' 250 went out, anyone know how to fix this? My 4x4 only engages when i manually lock the hubs. The shift on the fly doesn't work anymore. Please help.

  20. ram150c

    ram150c Junior Member
    from 01826
    Messages: 16

    I am 99.9% sure that when the hubs are in "auto" and the switch is in 2x4 the hubs are disengaged from the axles.
    I just replace a whole bunch of front end parts including replacing the tired ford autolockers with some warn manual lockers.
    Typical ford to design a system that they know will fail so they give you the option to amnually lock them. not complaining. just sayin.