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Liquid De-Iceing help

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by Superior L & L, Oct 14, 2008.

  1. Superior L & L

    Superior L & L PlowSite Veteran
    from MI
    Messages: 3,039

    We are in the process of trying to figure out some application rates and need some math wizards to help !

    We will be spraying at 9 gallons per min with a 10' spray boom. At what speed can i travel if i need to get 35 gallons per acre.

    I have a number figured but want to just check

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. Metro Lawn

    Metro Lawn PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,302

    I didn't do the exact math, but somewhere around 17 MPH
     
  3. elite1msmith

    elite1msmith 2000 Club Member
    from chicago
    Messages: 2,762

    its around 13 mph

    im not sure, somebody could check me a little , ...also did some rounding to make it easy

    acre is about 45,000 / 10 foot boom - 4500 liner feet - which needs about 36 gals to be applied , if your spraying at 9 gpm, then it would take 4 mins to spray 4500 feet - so thats 1125 feet per min x 60 mins = 67500 / 5280 = 12.78 MPH
     
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2008
  4. powerjoke

    powerjoke PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,341

    how do you know youre spraying 9gpm?

    you need 30-40 gpa so...........at 9gpm that would take you, 4 min to travel 1 mile and that's:confused:....roughly 20mph


    how do know youre spraying 9gpm?........what P.S.I. (at the nozzle) what kind of tip's are you useing?......how far apart are they?

    9gpm is a BUNCH! i would guess that youre not spraying that much but i don't know?

    PJ
     
  5. We run our rigs at 10 mph to get 35 gallons of Magic per acre. I would think you will be there or slightly higher.
     
  6. elite1msmith

    elite1msmith 2000 Club Member
    from chicago
    Messages: 2,762

    Pj, i think hes trying to build himself a rig .... I dont think hes at the point to take into consideration the placement of the tips and type ... eitherway what ever he chooses if his flow truley is 9 gpm , with a full 10 foot boom , then i think he would be around 13
     
  7. Superior L & L

    Superior L & L PlowSite Veteran
    from MI
    Messages: 3,039

    Thanks for the help guys, I saw metro said about 8 mph on his units and im trying to get double the gallons per min but have a couple of extra feet of spray boom. I was thinking about 14-15 mph IF i can get the 9 gpm

    Thanks for the help
     
  8. elite1msmith

    elite1msmith 2000 Club Member
    from chicago
    Messages: 2,762

    by my calculations 13 what are you going to use for a pump?
     
  9. Superior L & L

    Superior L & L PlowSite Veteran
    from MI
    Messages: 3,039

    Im thinking we are going to use a Lesco fert sprayer. it has a 5 hp Honda on it and the Lesco rep said it would get 9 gpm all day. We will probably take the tank off and put a 600 gallon tank on the truck but use the Lesco pump, motor and hose real set up.
    Now I just need to get some help on nozzel selection
    I realy need to sit down and just build his thing but we are still bidding realy heavy right now
     
  10. elite1msmith

    elite1msmith 2000 Club Member
    from chicago
    Messages: 2,762

    ill send you some specs of mine later
     
  11. powerjoke

    powerjoke PlowSite.com Addict
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    Elite:......i don't know how you could tell him that 13mph is how fast he need's to travel,.....here's why lol

    it doesnt matter if the pump will put out 140 gpm..........the PSI at the spray bar is what matter's....and it doesnt matter how wide youre spray boom is either.......the nozzle spaceing is what matter's thier too.

    you'll need stream nozzles for drivelanes, so the cars can spread the chemical

    you'll need fan nozzles for parking stall's (without traffic) for even coverage.

    now.........the nozzle size, spaceing, and boom PSI is what will determine GPMspeed witch will determine youre travel speed!

    i don't know much but i'll help what i can, i have been around sprayer's for ever and calcium is just another chemical witch need's to be delivered at precise controll.

    i have one sprayer on the 5500 that has a 1 1/2" hypro centrifigul hydrualic driven pump........that pump is capable of putting out 110gpm but do i demand it to?.....no

    here's a pic of it

    PJ
     
    Last edited: Feb 10, 2009
  12. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,556

    It's latter......
     
  13. lawnproslawncar

    lawnproslawncar Senior Member
    Messages: 605

    I'm curious here.
    With you bulk setups, is it a concentrate or dump and go?
     
  14. elite1msmith

    elite1msmith 2000 Club Member
    from chicago
    Messages: 2,762

     
  15. powerjoke

    powerjoke PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,341

    typically it's already diluted. i don't know if you can buy stronger stuff :confused:

    as long as the end result, (calcium at least) is 32% or 11.3lbs per gallon you are set.
    so to answer the Q'........it's a pump and go kind of thing for me

    PJ
     
  16. powerjoke

    powerjoke PlowSite.com Addict
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    trying to edit post eh' lol

    its latter and still no pic's
     
  17. lawnproslawncar

    lawnproslawncar Senior Member
    Messages: 605

    I wouldn't mind getting setup for this but there is a lot of startup cost to being able to apply it.
     
  18. elite1msmith

    elite1msmith 2000 Club Member
    from chicago
    Messages: 2,762

    has beeb built yet... this weekend.. i just know the calculations on it
     
  19. powerjoke

    powerjoke PlowSite.com Addict
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    i know youre post wasnt really a Q......but i turned it into one for ya :D lol

    i all depend's on what you think a LOT is?.....

    is it free?...NO, what is?

    is it something that will pay for itself? Yes,

    will it directly replace salt.....NONONONO

    will it help cut down salt useage YES


    PJ
     
  20. powerjoke

    powerjoke PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,341

    what the hell is a "beeb" :confused.....j/k