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Liquid Beet juics - staining ??

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by scottL, Nov 20, 2009.

  1. scottL

    scottL PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,600

    I've got a sample few gallons of a liquid blend with beet juice and I'm wondering about staining. In particular will it stain; cement or brick????

    So far I sprayed a little on some decent cement and asphalt and although it colored it at first the discoloring went away after the first rain. But, can/will it stain brick or new cement???


    THanks!
     
  2. cda817

    cda817 Senior Member
    Messages: 284

    I would contact the manufacturer because they are who you can go after if something happens.
     
  3. scottL

    scottL PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,600

    I did contact the manufacture. The typical response you get from most anyone selling anything in the snow plow industry ...... A fluff off with no facts. Shouldn't, maybe, probably, dunno.:realmad: :cry:

    What I am looking for is real world experience and I'm finding that hard to find. Thanks!
     
  4. BORIS

    BORIS Senior Member
    Messages: 170

    i can tell you that if people walk through it and then walk inside it will stain carpet.
     
  5. Deco

    Deco Senior Member
    Messages: 453

    had samples last year ....just pour some on a white t-shirt :eek:
     
  6. 4evergreenlawns

    4evergreenlawns Senior Member
    Messages: 552

    :dizzy:WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So what about beet juice treat bulk salt. I just took a commitment for some treat salt and they want to sell me the beet juice treat at a lower cost. I never consider staining. Stupid me.

    How about is anyone use the beet juice treated bulk salt last season or was this just a muli things last season? Come to think of it I do not remember any out cry from the motoring public. You know if someone drive there car on the road just salted with beet juice treated and it turned purple we would have heard about it.

    I do not have to take the beet juice treat it is just about $3.00 less a ton and I mix it with my untreated bulk.

    :salute:Great thread. Thanks for bringing it up.

    TIA, Ron G.
     
  7. rblake

    rblake Senior Member
    from dayton
    Messages: 291

    i have treated my bulk salt with beet juice for the past 7 years. never had any complaints about staining on anything. several years ago i accidently broke a shut off valve on one of the storage tanks and the beet juice came flowing out. it took several snows to eventually wash it away.
     
  8. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,855

    You mean the farmer who grew the sugar beets?

    Wonder if there are any professionals who could answer this question. :rolleyes:
     
  9. fireball

    fireball PlowSite.com Veteran
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  10. scottL

    scottL PlowSite.com Addict
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    My understanding of treated bulk salt is they spray it with a carbohydrate ( sugar ) to make it sticky for the mag chloride ( or what ever their mixture is ) to adhere and start quicker when it hit's moisture. The purple stuff I believe is corn based and colored purple with a non-staining dye. That is what I got for info from one vendor - but, to ask them to put it in righting ... never happen.
     
  11. T-MAN

    T-MAN PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,363

    Yep those farmers are EVIL !

    Last time I checked beets were purple, but then again I dont care to eat them so maybe there are some hybrid ones out with purple dye added.

    The juice is a byproduct from the canning process. Beets have sugar in them naturally, especially "sugar beets".

    Pour some Magic -0 on a shirt and see if it stains ? When you apply Magic to a lot it looks like someone emptied there slurry, yet it works :nod:
    If you spray walks it will track as well till it starts to dillute.

    If you intend to spray straight beet juice you may have staining issues, treated salt, or a blend like most companys like SNI sell do not.

    Scott who is selling beet juice in IL besides SNI ?
     
  12. scottL

    scottL PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,600

    I'm trying a few gallons of Triple Melt from ConservFS. I believe there are three salts and beet juice.

    I have a few areas that I would really benefit from applying pre-treatment so, I'm hoping the stuff works and there is no staining of the brick work. The area is a mix of new and old cement along with new brick.
     
  13. 4evergreenlawns

    4evergreenlawns Senior Member
    Messages: 552

    ConservFS is who is offering the beet juice treated bulk. I guess I will give it a try and see what is does.

    I have Triple Melt bag salt from ConservFS, I have been using on walk no isssues not sure it is the same product or just a product name.

    Ron G
     
  14. scottL

    scottL PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,600

    I'm using their ice age bagged for walks. I think I remember them saying the bagged triple melt is the same minus the beet juice and liquid form.
     
  15. T-MAN

    T-MAN PlowSite.com Addict
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    How much per gallon from conserv ?
     
  16. scottL

    scottL PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,600

    I only bought a 5 gallon trial size unit. But, I believe that cost me like $27 ( not sure though ). Two gallon poly sprayer and the whole trial will cost under $50 and should work out to something like 10-15 bags of salt, maybe. My goal right now is only for sidewalk pre-treat as my trial.

    I'm also sure if your a long term customer or buy a lot from them the price will reflect that.
     
  17. SnowMatt13

    SnowMatt13 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,533

    I blend GeoMelt55 (beet juice from SNI) with my salt brine and use it in anti-icing and pre-wetting application on paved and concrete roads....no staining....it washes off, or I should say mother nature washes it off. It's residual is good, but once that is gone there is not stain.
     
  18. purpleranger519

    purpleranger519 Senior Member
    from Kansas
    Messages: 536

    I've used GeoMelt55 as well with the same results on pavement and walks. Although it washes off of pavement and walks, it will stain clothes
     
  19. T-MAN

    T-MAN PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,363

    At that price I would use Magic -0.
    I do some business with Conserv in Wauconda, but I am by no means going to get the heavy hitter discount like Ron :nod:
    Was hopping to find an cheaper alternative to the Ice Ban I use for pre-wet, that only cost me 1.25 a gallon.
    Any one know were there is any IL/Wi sugar beet farms, and a canning plant ?
     
  20. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,855

    Now you have the right idea. :drinkup: