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Lets Beat Out The Lowballers

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by Flawless440, Dec 23, 2010.

  1. Flawless440

    Flawless440 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,543

    I just had an idea while talking to the wife this morning. Form a "SnowPlow Contractor Union" Make it alittle pricey to join to keep out the lowballers. Market the hell out of to the customers. Within the union us contractors have set prices.

    Lets here some feedback to improve this.

    Who has the time to make it happen?
  2. JohnnyU

    JohnnyU 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,037

    I'll keep doing what I've been doing, the way I've been doing it for the last 11 years. Thanks.

    In theory, it sounds like a great idea, in practice I don't see it working.
  3. paponte

    paponte Senior Member
    Messages: 717

    How about just perform superior service in your area, and they will come. I have resigned every customer for the last 12yrs that we service. The only customers ever lost were the non payers or the PITA's, and that was our doing. I don't know about by you, but here the low ballers get the lots nobody wants anyway.
  4. Matson Snow

    Matson Snow PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,985

    Isn't that called SIMA....:rolleyes:.....:popcorn:
  5. Brian Young

    Brian Young PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,382

    Its funny, every year someone comes up with the same idea. It would be a good thing but just in thought.
  6. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,032

    There has and always will be people that will work for less. I can bet some of the people that call people low ballers are low ballers in in someone else's eyes. This topic has been beat to death. Figure out a way to make your business profitable by becoming more effiecient, running a tight ship and doing jobs that not everyone can do. JMO
  7. plowman4life

    plowman4life Senior Member
    Messages: 557

    the only way to get rid of lowballers in my opinion is to have the backing of the state. and to have a license that allows you to perform snowplowing and salting comercially. must have a business license and tax ID number and general liability to apply for it. that would end that. b/c if it suddenly became hard to do it i think most people would jump off the snow plowing band wagon so to speak. b/c i know most of the guys on here this is thier only income through the winter and would have no problem getting a license to do it to ensure they could continue to run thier business.

    and im not say you would have to be licensed to own a plow. if you want one for personal use thats fine. but i think if your charging people and doing it commercially. than that is the only way to eliminate lowballers
  8. toby4492

    toby4492 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,513

  9. slongfellowii

    slongfellowii Senior Member
    Messages: 157

    I think someone is looking for a government bailout. lol
  10. rusty_keg_3

    rusty_keg_3 Senior Member
    Messages: 514

    I see where he is coming from... Lowballers suck and if u think about it, U dont see the iron workers getting low balled, then again its a skilled trade... But still what about the companies like USM, they hold all of these contracts, and from what i gather they do them really cheap, then just sub the work out (i hear pay isnt that great)...

    So... from what i read from others USM is a "lowballer" in a sense... And they have an unfathomable amount of contracts... So i guess this would only help with some residential, asome commercial...

    IMO, idk tho
  11. blowerman

    blowerman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,261

    X3 I couldn't agree more
  12. cf1128

    cf1128 Member
    from NH
    Messages: 77

    Be Better not Bitter.
    X4 JD Dave
  13. paponte

    paponte Senior Member
    Messages: 717

    You already need all of this to run a business in the first place, so I don't agree with you on this. If you require yet ANOTHER license, the only people that make out are the townships and government in all the fees. There are already too many fees involved for the legit business man. All these illegals in business killing the industry are the problem. After that last statement I must point out that BY ILLEGALS I MEAN NON LICENSED, NON INSURED SO CALLED COMPANIES, before my thread gets deleted. There are no agencies really enforcing these requirements. It is in essence our jobs to point out the requirements to be a legit plowing company to your clients. How if they hire the lowballer, they in essence are liable.
  14. dforbes

    dforbes Senior Member
    Messages: 247

    A union is formed to protect employees from the company they work for. I think what you are proposing is a totaly diferant situation. It sounds good in theory, but would only increase our cost of doing business and have little to no effect on lowballers. These guys could care less what you set your prices at because they are willing to work for pennys.
  15. jkiser96

    jkiser96 Senior Member
    Messages: 401

    The company that I work full time for was buste dfor this a few years ago. The higher ups did time & had to pay a huge fine. This is called price fixing.
  16. allcraftsmen

    allcraftsmen Junior Member
    Messages: 26

    That's what we need more regulation by the state. They can't even balance a checkbook. The lowballers will come and go. They always have. Here one minute, out of business the next.....
  17. cubicinches

    cubicinches PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,412


  18. Matson Snow

    Matson Snow PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,985

    X6- X100...JD you are the Greatest...Im starting to have a Little Man crush....:laughing:..:salute:....:rolleyes:
  19. 496 BB

    496 BB Senior Member
    Messages: 789

    Heres a step towards eliminating the low ballers. STOP EXTENDING UN-EMPLOYMENT!!!!!! Maybe then these jackwagons will have to make more to stay afloat like the rest of us. There will ALWAYS be the guys out there in ANY industry that work just enough to get their 8-ball and 12 pack for the weekend. That will never change. They all weed themselves out though eventually after they realize they dont have enough money for those two things PLUS gas. Then welfare takes over and it starts the cycle over again.
  20. BossPlow2010

    BossPlow2010 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,027

    I still haven't lost any accounts to the quote lowballers unquote.