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LED's Nova or Whelen / Amber or Clear

Discussion in 'Strobe Lighting' started by swtiih, Aug 25, 2009.

  1. swtiih

    swtiih PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,179

    I am looking to outfit my 08 superduty with hide-away LED's using either the Whelen vertex or Nova x1100. I want an amber flash because that is the only color allowed by law.


    1) Which will be brighter and better quality,Whelen or Nova?

    2) If I go with the Nova's:
    should I use the Amber LED mounted in the clear portion of the headlamp or
    the Clear LED mounted in the amber turn signal housing?

    According to the Nova website the Amber LED is rated at about 358 lumens &
    the Clear LED is rated at 1100 lumens. Even though the Clear LED is rated higher lumens installing it behind an amber lense may decrease the light output significantly.

    Any information from the experienced guys out there would be greatly appreciated.



    I will probably install some lin3's or linz6's just not sure where.
     
  2. ultimate plow

    ultimate plow PlowSite.com Addict
    from N. IL
    Messages: 1,761

    as far as leds, colored leds are brighter behind their matching lense color. Clear leds behind a colored lense will decrease the light output. Clear strobes are fine for putting behind colored lense. If your using these as primary warning id go with the strobe hideaways.
     
  3. kitn1mcc

    kitn1mcc Senior Member
    Messages: 516

    personally i would go with grill mounted leds in the front like linz6 or lin3 the newer style super duty head lights have a double wall and they cost alot of money
    go whelen no matter what u do

    example
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  4. plowman4life

    plowman4life Senior Member
    Messages: 557

    go whelen. as for haws youll have to put a 1 inch hole in the first wall of the lense and then the 3/4 inch into the reflector. so the light can mount properly.

    anyway. for grille lights go with linz6s they are much brighter and will be better suited for your application.

    also with the hideaways match the led color to the lense. amber behind amber wont necessarily be brighter but will produce a much better amber color while the clear behind the amber will wash to a bright yellow.
     
  5. ultimate plow

    ultimate plow PlowSite.com Addict
    from N. IL
    Messages: 1,761

    Grill lights are cool and all, but really not needed. hideaway strobes are great, hit full 360 degees around the vehicle. then an amber on top for primary warning. Stick with federal signal and whelen.
     
  6. Dissociative

    Dissociative 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,066

    most definitely not the whelen for the amber......they use clear led under a yellow lens.

    nova uses real amber leds....much nicer....
     
  7. maelawncare

    maelawncare Senior Member
    Messages: 871

    Well dont know if you talkn about the grill lights or hideaways. But your wrong on both accords. Just take a look at them. And i know because i have both. Amber LEDs on the whelens buddy.
     
  8. larryhd

    larryhd Senior Member
    from vermont
    Messages: 213

  9. ultimate plow

    ultimate plow PlowSite.com Addict
    from N. IL
    Messages: 1,761


    Im pretty sure george is right
     
  10. kitn1mcc

    kitn1mcc Senior Member
    Messages: 516

    149 is a bit expensive
     
  11. maelawncare

    maelawncare Senior Member
    Messages: 871

    I have just taken my whelen mini justice apart. I broke one of the strobes when it flew off the truck. Believe me they are amber leds not amber lenses. It has both LIN3s and TIR3s in it.

    And how the hell could you say they use amber lenses. Just look at them. Their CLEAR!

    And look at this one. Clear lens
    http://www.sirennet.com/led-haw-builder.html
     
  12. maelawncare

    maelawncare Senior Member
    Messages: 871

    Actually thats really cheap.
     
  13. ultimate plow

    ultimate plow PlowSite.com Addict
    from N. IL
    Messages: 1,761

    :waving:
    Hes talking about the vertexs man. Same with the LAWs. The amber comes with a colored lense. The leds are clear and thats why theyre a yellowish color. The link you posted of the clear ones are that of a clear light.:waving:
     
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2009
  14. maelawncare

    maelawncare Senior Member
    Messages: 871

    OMG :angry: Wheres the bang head agaisnt wall smilie. You can chose amber with those. They show clear on all their hideaways cause their brighter. Blues have the least amount of light output.

    I have never seen a whelen LED that uses a clear LED under amber lens. Even their responder series has a amber lens but is a amber LED.
     
  15. ultimate plow

    ultimate plow PlowSite.com Addict
    from N. IL
    Messages: 1,761

    All the lightheads and lightbars use amber LEDs dude. Again, were talking about the vertexs and LAWs. Im pretty sure these use a colored lense over the white led.
     
  16. 2tonsoffordfun

    2tonsoffordfun Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 66


    out of those 2 choices my choice would be Tomar ussmileyflag
     
  17. Dissociative

    Dissociative 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,066

    geeze....some people.......

    learn a little bit about what your talking about......go buy a vertex dude...NOBODY EVEN USES THE LAWS ANYMORE...those are OLD STOCK....nobody uses them....

    that junk is first generation garbage....you don;t even NEED A DRIVER ANYMORE.....IT'S ALL RAN ON JUST A 12V SIGNAL...


    don;t listen to me....i don;t know anything........


    THE POSTERS QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED CORRECTLY ....arrrg...
     
  18. Dissociative

    Dissociative 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,066

    thanks for the props ultimate......at least somebody has trust for me....LOL
     
  19. Dissociative

    Dissociative 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,066

    threads like this make me think of things like this...
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  20. Dissociative

    Dissociative 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,066

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    use the pause feature..........