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Large tractor for snow removal.

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment' started by AB Lawn Care, Nov 15, 2000.

  1. AB Lawn Care

    AB Lawn Care Member
    Messages: 93

    Do any of you guys/girls have any experience with plowing with 80-100hp tractors??????How do they preform compaired to a plow truck?????I am thinking of using a 80-100hp tractor with a blade on the front and blower on the back.Any thoughts or experience with this type of setup?The thing I like about a tractor setup is that they are powerful and versatile.What are your thoughts?
     
  2. Alan

    Alan PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,393

    There was a huge 4 WD tractor with a Degelman blade and a big blower over in Oneida, NY that looked like it would be a real kick a$$ snow machine. I've often thought that a New Holland "Versatile" with a PA blade on one end and a blower on the other would be great. Only drawback would be slow travel speed over the road, but if you had places close together or one big site you could move some serious snow with that setup.
     
  3. Chuck Smith

    Chuck Smith 2000 Club Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 2,317

    I don't know how many HP it was, but I did some with an old Ford 2000, with front end loader on it.
    They hadn't used it for snow in years, because it didn't do well. They had wheel weights for it, and tire chains. I did it with no weights or chains. It was a "spur of the moment" thing. The tractor was there in the garage, and the drifts were tall that storm.... I left the york rake on the back for weight, and it was lined with concrete blocks on top too.

    It did ok, but I had to step on the posi lock A LOT. It didn't like to steer where I wanted it to go either, so I had to "unpin" the brake pedals. It just had too much power, and not enough traction. It may have done better with chains and weights, but it was really only good for stacking.

    Now, a 4wd one is a different story. I think it would do MUCH better. A rear mounted blower would work great, but your neck would be killing you!!

    ~Chuck
     
  4. GeoffD

    GeoffD PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 2,266

    New Holland 2160, 4X4, will handle a 9' blade no problem. Will stack snow high and work well for snow removel.

    However like any large tractor, the hydro will be slow compared to a loader, and a truck.


    Geoff
     
  5. jason2

    jason2 PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 117

    Back in my hometown, a guy plows with a John Deere 7520. It is a center articulated 4x4 tractor. 200+ hp, duals on all four corners, 8 forward gears. He plows city streets with it, and that tractor flat out eats the snow. It blows away the Terex wheel loader that another guy uses.

    I had two 7520's, sold them at auction when I got out of farming. Wish I would have kept one. Both had around 7,000 hours which is relatively low for 1973 models. One sold for 6,500 and the other for 4,900. Both were well maintained and in good shape. Air conditoner didn't work in the one that sold cheaper. I've seen dealers selling 7520's in the 10-15k range. Pays to check out auctions.
     
  6. AB Lawn Care

    AB Lawn Care Member
    Messages: 93

    Jason2-I have seen what you are talking about!There where 2 at a antique tractor show this past summer.They are massive!!One had a complete set of dual wheels and the other had single.The engines in those things are massive!!!!The one deere had a set of plows maby 15 or so and was able to lift the intire set up on about a 60 degree angle.I like those machines but that is too big for what I want!Anyone else?
     
  7. diggerman

    diggerman Senior Member
    from Ames
    Messages: 700

    I will be using a 80hp agco allis 4x4 this year with a 11' plow on it.I haven't used it yet but did grade the drive with it the other day. We will be using it for the city plowing streets,they use alot of farm tractors here to do streets.I will most likely put a large rear blade on this tractor so I can use it for pulling out parking lots when not working for the city.
     
  8. toddman35

    toddman35 Junior Member
    Messages: 1

    Digger

    i'll keep an eye out for you, have you seen the john deere 8100's with the front blades? was up one night and saw one go by. those clear about half a street at a tyme.
     
  9. Vince Panaroni

    Vince Panaroni Member
    Messages: 85

    plowing with a tractor

    I've been plowing with my tractor for several years now and find that I can get into places that are at best difficult for trucks. granted the tractors don't have the road speed that trucks, but in lots and drives etc who is doing over 10-15mph.

    I just finished hooking up a 2001 John Deere 940 tractor with a curtis built plow which hooks up to the bucket arms, and I tell you it is a awesome sight to see how high this guy can stack. It makes my tractor look puny by comparison.

    Like Geoff said earlier with 4 wheel drive, these guys can really move the white stuff which at this very moment is starting to fall here in north central New Hampshire.

    think snow
    vince
     
  10. diggerman

    diggerman Senior Member
    from Ames
    Messages: 700

    Toddman,ours will most likly be the only Agco,not sure if I'm going to decal it yet or not.Yes I have seen the big Deeres I see everybody once or twice on a snow night but with fifteen to twenty plows out I don't usually get to stop and eat or talk with with anybody but my own guys.
     
  11. mtdrussell

    mtdrussell Junior Member
    Messages: 1

    Fast Tractor - Mercedes Unimog

    Greetings All,
    Interesting topic, I plow over four miles of Montana State Lands logging road to get in to my place as well as commercially for various logging operations that work in my area. The current market offerings for pickup truck plows just can't handle this type of work on a regular basis - unless your willing to spend a lot of time and money doing repairs. A road grader has typically been used for this but they are slow, and limited in their use for anyting but grading. I have been using a '72 Mercedes Unimog for the last four years with great success. It easily handles rough terrain and deep snow with it's front and rear differential locks, can haul a two yard sander, and has a road speed of 45MPH. I have been so impressed that I recent purchased another, larger model with a 10ft Schmidt MF3.1 multi-section plow, a Schmidt S-3 PTO driven snowblower, a Epoke articulating boom flail mower, and a 8ft Sweepster brush. All of these implements utilize the on-board hydraulics (four circuits) and PTO's (3)as well as the Schmidt quick attach system which is very slick. Just thought I'd pass along my my experience...
    Dave
     
  12. Nicholas

    Nicholas Junior Member
    Messages: 1

    My 318 Deere

    Hello,
    I recently started my snow removal in upstate N.Y. using a smaller John Deere 318 garden tractor with a 54" blade for slush with rear weight box along with a 47" two stage blower that pops on in about 10 minutes for heavier snow. It works really good.
     
  13. lawn king

    lawn king PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,070

    kubota with blower

    I have a kubota B3030 factory cab with 60" 2 stage front pto snowblower, hydraulic chute control. I expect the unit to blow snow 60-70 feet at 2500 RPM.
     
  14. crazymike

    crazymike Senior Member
    from Toronto
    Messages: 639

    Tractors will outpush a truck any day. It's just getting traction.

    But with loaded tires, wheel weights and good tires you can push quite a bit of snow.

    I deal chinese tractors and loaders (Changlin).

    This winter we have been selling 80hp tractors with cab and tool carrier for $35,000. We have them lined up for 12'-14' blades.

    With good contracts you can expect to earn about $15,000+ just brokeraging alone. That's a good investment even if the tractor only last 4 years. With a perkins engine, dana and LUK parts they will last much longer.

    I'm not trying to advertise as I've never posted my dealership information.

    I'm just saying Tractors make excellent vehicles as they are multi use. In the summer you can put on sweepers, loaders, scarifiers, graders, seeders, mowers, ditch mowers, etc.... And there are now very affordable options out there.
     
  15. itsgottobegreen

    itsgottobegreen PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,351

    Farm tractors can handle push boxes just fine. Depending on the mounting system, etc. They can keep up with loaders. But they can't stack snow as high. Plus farmers are always willing to work cheap with their huge tractors compaired to loaders and hoes.
     
  16. BrokenMRanch

    BrokenMRanch Junior Member
    Messages: 11

    I use two JD 9200 4WD tractors with Degelman blades. The blades are 16ft wide and around 50 inches tall. Works like a charm.
     
  17. Mark Witcher

    Mark Witcher Senior Member
    Messages: 604

    I have a JD2750 tractor , 4wd 110 hp that we use with a pusher plow for doing a large shopping mall. It does O.K..About the same as a backhoe we used to rent. But Im looking for a front loader to use instead. More weight means more push.wesport
     
  18. JFTburg@aol.com

    JFTburg@aol.com Junior Member
    Messages: 1

    I have a 83 hp JD 5083E-does anyone know of a plow frame (non-loader) that will fit this unit?
     
  19. Neige

    Neige Sponsor
    Messages: 2,197

    Tractors definately have their place in snow. Here is a vid that proves it. Also check out JD Dave he has some great vids showing how well the ag tractor works in snow.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD2W1ovachc
     
  20. leon

    leon Senior Member
    Messages: 872

    plow etc.

    There are more than a handfull of them for sale.

    The Degelman and Horst plows come to mind directly,
    as they are underframe mount.

    If you go to the winter farm show on tuesday in Syracuse, N.Y.,
    they will have a few brands represented.

    You may for the money involved be better served by the
    smallest tracked ASV offered by Mabie brothers