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Kubota RTV w/ Plow

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by BossPlow614, Feb 21, 2010.

  1. BossPlow614

    BossPlow614 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,870

    Anyone run these? I could see them being pretty good for doing driveways, possibly, how are they compared to skid steers? I know they obviously cant lift a bucket like a skid, but they could run faster. What are you guys' thoughts?
     
  2. leon

    leon Senior Member
    Messages: 872

    Kubota RTV

    I think there still is is link to an RTV 900 with a 48 inch Bercomac gas powered snow blower
    on the site here and on youube as well as the Bercomac homepage.


    Like the john deere gators they have a higher ground clearance etc. the four wheel drive is a plus
    for plowing as you can put ballast weight in the back and ih the pasenger seat if you wanted too I suppose.

    Like anything else power and traction rule all. I do not know how well a plow would work with heavier accumulations
    with or without chains or loaded tires but both would help.

    The RTV would be easier to use as the sightlines are better with more open area and field of view.


    The automatic transmission would of course be a plus to reduce fatigue while plowing etc.
    but the possibility of getting stuck is another issue if you do not have a winch and a nearby telephone pole etc.
    The issue of dealing with snao builds would be something to consider where the Bercomac would simply dispose
    of any accumulation at a slightly slower pace.

    On the heavy equipment forum a few months ago the Kubota RTV came up in a discussion about what was needed
    for a the stetson wind farm in Maine for an all season vehicle to plow and fix roads etc.
    The manager there stated the kubotas were problematic because they were always getting stuck even though they had mattracks on both axles.
    and the polaris UTVs did not get stuck (the Polaris units are much lighter in weight than the Kubota RTV)
    with an air cooled engine.

    The problem with the decision to use the Mattracks for the Kubota RTV is simply one of poor design.
    The mattracks used were too small in surface area to handle the front weight of the Kubota RTV with
    or with out passengers and as they do not have cleats(as far as I know thats another issue.

    The smaller mattracks would allow the RTV to sink instead of stay on the surface of the snow pack.

    I am unsure if they solved the problem by installing a wider mattrack and reduced the turning radius as a result of this
    or not but if they had done their homework they would have seen this the first time they tested a Kubota RTV
    (I do not believe it was tested in deep snow as they would have changed the track size) Its probably a case of it
    worked on the Polaris Rhino and it will fit the kubota........ but the polaris has an air cooled engine and it weighs
    much less than the Kubota units-I am unsure if they have added a water cooled engine to their herd of UTVs.


    Using an ASV would provide more traction, torque and power as well using a back up camera would help to eliminate and blind spots
    but its an opportunity cost decision like anything else.

    :waving:
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2010
  3. BossPlow614

    BossPlow614 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,870

    What's an ASV?

    I think I'd prefer the kubota over the gas rhino, ranger, kawi mules just because the diesels have more power, and they run cooler and in the cold itd be tougher for them to over heat vs a gas plowing. I don't think I'd run tracks, I've heard horror stories of em and they seem like wastes of $$.

    Not sure if I'd run a back up cam, we'd have to see, they have a 12v plug in the cabs but I'm not sure if that can handle a back up cam and monitor. They recommend to not even hookup a light to it.

    Yeah it is definitely an opportunity cost and something I'd have to crunch quite a few numbers on.


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    Last edited: Feb 22, 2010
  4. leon

    leon Senior Member
    Messages: 872

    kubota RTV

    The ASV is the All Season Vehicle company which is the high flotation tracked vehicle sold by ASV with Caterpillar engine power.

    You can by a wire less back up camera from wally mart or the Samurai big box store.
    for way south of $200 USD.

    The cameras are very low amperage draw and the wireless one has batteries in the camera, I am unsire if the monitor is plugged in but its a very low draw amperage item

    With the Kubota RTV having a carrier box you could carry salt, sand, a salamader to break up ice in downspouts for clienets, a generator to run an electric snow blower to cleane sidewalks and stairs as well as work lights. With the Bercomac Snow Blower it gives you another option with the carrier.


    leon:waving::sleeping::mechanic:
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2010
  5. Westhardt Corp.

    Westhardt Corp. Senior Member
    Messages: 845

    Used Toolcat.

    /thread
     
  6. BossPlow614

    BossPlow614 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,870

    Toolcats are not of interest to me. Too expensive at this point, if I want to be able to lift a bucket I think I'd go with a skid.

    I wasnt aware of them being that cheap, I'm gonna have to look into it, it'll save me some neck pain!

    That is why I like the kubotas so much, the dump box. Can hold salt, sand, dirt, etc. Not sure if I'd need a generator, I'm leaning towards the V-plow rather than the blower mount. There are headlights and the newer ones have lights mounted on the front of the roof, I think I'd also rig one up for the backside of the cab.
     
  7. BlackIrish

    BlackIrish Senior Member
    Messages: 890

    You really should at least look at used toolcat.
    Probably more expensive but very versatile and high road speed.
    I run a snowblower on the front wth a back blade on the rear, have a salter for the dump box,.
    Bought it used fully equiped.
    jmo
     
  8. Westhardt Corp.

    Westhardt Corp. Senior Member
    Messages: 845

    Precisely. The ToolCats can be had for a nice price used--$20K or less, and while nice, the Kubota is no match for the versatility of the ToolCat. Have you considered a Ranger?
     
  9. BossPlow614

    BossPlow614 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,870

    Not a fan of the rangers. I dont want a gasser
     
  10. 06slvrctd

    06slvrctd Member
    Messages: 55

    We run a 1100 with the 72" blade at work. Works really well, just pushed 6" of wet slop with big drifts last week no problem. We use it for sidewalks only however, but should push driveways fine. 4wd and Low gear and it just keeps chugging on. The blade could be taller, but I think they offer a HD blade and a V blade now. The hydraulic angle from the cab is great!
     
  11. BossPlow614

    BossPlow614 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,870

    Thanks that is the answer I was looking for. I take it you have a Kanlan blade? What did it run you if you don't mind? I'm thinking of running their v-plow with this set up, the 900 should handle it just fine.
     
  12. purpleranger519

    purpleranger519 Senior Member
    from Kansas
    Messages: 536

    If I remember tight Mark O on here runs one with a Blizzard on it.
     
  13. BossPlow614

    BossPlow614 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,870

    I'll have to PM him.
     
  14. gamberbull13

    gamberbull13 Senior Member
    Messages: 125

    The kubotas r tanks we have one and they are rock solid tough slow and seem like they can pull a house of foundation. Curtis's makes a complete power and setup for them and saltdogg has a small vbox that fits in the bed perfect and works great. You can also lock the different at all corners too great. Year round money maker too we built sides for it to haul mulch and stone dirt works great and you can take it to hunting camp. Ill post a pic of ours in the off season.
     
  15. gamberbull13

    gamberbull13 Senior Member
    Messages: 125

    Sorry meant power angle setup
     
  16. BossPlow614

    BossPlow614 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,870

    Yeah they are definitely workhorses. And that's another reason I want one, much easier to haul dirt and mulch in the summer, can get mulch installs done much quicker and your back wont hurt as much! No more wheel barrows!
     
  17. gamberbull13

    gamberbull13 Senior Member
    Messages: 125

    They also have acentral hydraulic system for dumpbedram andabunch of attachment. You can getpost tampers winches rams compressors andgenerators
     
  18. shooterm

    shooterm Senior Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 260

    At best this is a handy machine for a golf course that has to watch out for ground compaction. Put weight in the box and now you defeated the purpose of it. The two I've seen snowplowing are parked in the corner of the lot with the job trailers when the crews are out plowing.
     
  19. gamberbull13

    gamberbull13 Senior Member
    Messages: 125

    They are extremely heavy for their size and the ones ive seen plowingdo a fine job, but they def,aren't a toolcat and r def cheaper too.
     
  20. sparky2410

    sparky2410 Member
    Messages: 43

    We run an 850D gator and it works great for sidewalks and drivethrus. I have 2 friends-competitors with 1100 Kubotas, they are a bit wider and dont work well on 5' city sidewalks, they have also said that the gator has more power and traction. Gator is "true" 4wd, not 3wd like the RTV 1100. Here are some pics

    http://www.plowsite.com/album.php?albumid=523