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Just went to the Local Walmart.

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by TurfSolutionsMN, Mar 13, 2009.

  1. TurfSolutionsMN

    TurfSolutionsMN Senior Member
    from MN
    Messages: 302

    I justed went in to the local Walmart and asked about grounds maintenance and plowing. And the manager said that he just got back from a corp. meeting and they told them that all of the bids need to be sent to corp. and they will decide who gets it. There will be no more package deals, there will be a bid for plowing, mowing & sweeping, so at one store you could have 3 different companies servicing it. He said its away for corp. to keep a good handle on the maintenance budget. So he said he will be contacting me in June to place bids. He also said if I wanted to get a good jump on it & let corp. know Im serious, to get a vendor number, so I went on the website to fill it out. Whats up with a financal background info and spending $495 to get a D.U.N.S. number?
     
  2. merrimacmill

    merrimacmill PlowSite.com Addict
    from MA
    Messages: 1,822

    DUNS numbers are just a way for dun and bradstreet to track your corporate credit history. People will report to this and you get a risk score much like you personal credit score. I don't believe in them because they will call you up and ask you EVERYTHING about everything to do wtih your business inside and out. We've been incorporated since 1960 and have never had or needed one. I think we do have a "listing" on their website because they just put it there with a number but we have never done anything with it and it is so obsolete and wrong about everything. It doesn't have the right year of incorporation, doesn't have the right name of owners, doesn't have the right income or anything. But we have never needed it so we won't bother doing anything about it.

    I'm really not sure why they would want that for. Its not like your the one that will owe them money... They will owe you money. Keep us posted
     
  3. Dustball

    Dustball Senior Member
    Messages: 274

    You don't need to pay to get a DUNS number.

    Go through the process of signing up here-
    http://www.dnb.com/US/duns_update/

    They'll call you and try to sell you their $495 package so you can monitor your information but just keep saying no, you only want a number for now and they'll eventually give you your number.
     
  4. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,045

    Generally a company in good financial standing will provide better service than a company that is not On large contracts I wish they would just go back to putting performance bonds up for at least half on the contracted price.
     
  5. jomama45

    jomama45 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,172

    JD Dave, would you get your bonding through a local insurance company? Just curious how it would work for snow removal as that is the way I get mine in the const. industry.
     
  6. Brant'sLawnCare

    Brant'sLawnCare PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,752

    I wish I were that kind of salesman. Persistence pays off.
     
  7. tbi

    tbi Member
    from CNY
    Messages: 91

    Dunn & Bradstreet are extortion specialists.
     
  8. JohnnyRoyale

    JohnnyRoyale 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,935

    That is correct-not all insurance co's get involved in bonding but most commercial insurers do. They're called performance bonds, and in some cases are required for 100% of contract value-typically municipal work.
     
  9. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,045

    Thanks John, it sure would get rid of the rift raft.
     
  10. TurfSolutionsMN

    TurfSolutionsMN Senior Member
    from MN
    Messages: 302

    I wish it wasn't so hard to get in with these bigger companies. I have been in this business my entire life, but Im only 24. I know what you guys are saying by good financial status, but I just dont have enough built up yet. But this past year I went balls deep into it to, so I could get much bigger and provide the best possable service. In the past I have never lost any accounts for lack of service only a few gov. ones that always take low bids. Rant Over
     
  11. kashman

    kashman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,070

    i had 2 get 1 for my city work no big deal
     
  12. jomama45

    jomama45 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,172

    That's the same idea as the bonds I take out for construction work, although they are license & permit bonds. Every municipality has different requirements, but the insurance co. covers you for a set dollar value in case you damage any muni. infastructure. I've never taken out a performance bond, as they are usually reserved for large scale muni. & commercial/institutional jobs. Either way, I can see them working for plowing contracts also.
     
  13. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,045

    It's hard for everyone to get the good big jobs and at 24 you can't expect to have everything, it takes time it doesn't happen over night. You need to build up to it and then you'll be ready. Good Luck.:drinkup:
     
  14. Mark Witcher

    Mark Witcher Senior Member
    Messages: 604

    Not all of the Wal mart managers are playing by the corporate rules. I have not had a signed contract with the Wal mart I service for 5 years now.I have serviced this store since 1999. And I do all of their parking lot and landscape maintenance. Now the corporate is asking all vendors to do invoicing by E mail , Ariba thing. And I have not heard from the local store to verify this either.
    A DUNNS number is FREE. and required for federal contracts.
     
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2009