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Jeep Wrangler Plowing

Discussion in 'Jeeps' started by Bob's 24 hour, Nov 26, 2007.

  1. Bob's 24 hour

    Bob's 24 hour Junior Member
    Messages: 14

    Hello All:
    I’ve been plowing for several years on my own and my business has grown to a max of 55 driveways. Can’t handle any more with those 24 inch storms. I’m thinking about buying a Jeep Wrangler or CJ as a back up vehicle for one main reason. During the summer months the wife and I do a lot of traveling with our motor home and if I had a jeep, I could tow it 4 down (4 wheels on the ground).

    One friend discouraged me from getting a jeep because it was not a heavy duty vehicle. Could anyone pass on some thoughts on using a Wrangler as a back-up plowing vehicle, my F350 would be my primary truck. Engine size, transmission, suspension or down right a bad idea.

    Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
    Bob
     
  2. toby4492

    toby4492 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,513

    We have many customers running our plows on Jeep Wranglers. For residential drives they work very well. I would recommend outfitting with our patented hydraulic down pressure system which will do a great job back-dragging snow.
     
  3. '76cj5

    '76cj5 Member
    Messages: 78

    Well I've been plowing for 30 years now with a Jeep CJ but... I know how to keep it running. Heavy Duty aftermatket frame, fiberglass body,fenders, grill. All SS nuts and bolts.
    Most CJ's you might find probably are pretty rotted out expecially the frame. So I'd stear away from a CJ.

    YJ's and TJ's are later years and have galvanized bodies so they may be a better choice. Wranglers are much more manuverable and I find no problem running one on driveways. It a lot tougher on gravel driveways until they freeze over.

    I've plowed parking lots, driveways, shipping docks and sidewalks without any problem. I'm usually sent in on the small jobs like fast food joints and gas stations where manuverability is important. I've plowed in 24" storms but usually kept the plow up as high as the differential on the first pass and went back to clean up on the second pass. It's not going to be a 1 pass deal that deep.

    Definatl look for a YJ or TJ. Our neighbor pulls a Grand Cherokee behind his Motor home. You could look for something bigger in that case.
     
  4. theplowmeister

    theplowmeister 2000 Club Member
    from MA
    Messages: 2,551

    I to plowed with a F150 45 driveways and that was all I could handle. Then I also got a jeep for a backup, plowed once with the jeep to try it out and sold the truck!! I now plow 75 driveways with the Jeep. (read that as morepayup) that was 19 years ago and have been using Jeeps ever since.
     
  5. TwistedMetal

    TwistedMetal Member
    Messages: 48

    just bought a snoway today for my Wrangler..Have an F350 with a western V plow..truck was way to big to plow the little drives..all i need is some snow and then i can comment on how it works..found the older ST80 with down pressure..
     
  6. Bob's 24 hour

    Bob's 24 hour Junior Member
    Messages: 14

    Jeep plowing

    Thank you all for your comments and so glad to see that a Wrangler is a viable option at least for my driveway plowing. It may serve both my winter plowing needs as well as a towed vehicle behind our motor home. Always need a support vehicle when driving an RV.

    For those who plow with a Wrangler, a few questions.
    1. Is the 4.0 L engine a straight 6 or a V6 or both and which or what do you recommend?
    2. Plowmeister has a weighted rear bumper (understand the need). How much weight will the suspension handle both front and rear?
    3. 76cj5 recommends a YJ or TJ Wranglers and having spent a fair amount or time under older vehicles, I understand. When did YJ and TJ hit the streets?
    4. Twisted Metal, good luck with your new rig. Snoway offers down pressure which I like for back dragging. What do others use and how wide a blade?
    5. Automatic transmission …..yes?

    I’m now looking for a newer - Cheep - Wrangler…Ya….Right and a blade to match.

    Again….That’s to all
    Bob
     
  7. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,992

    Jeep Wranglers are driveway monsters, faster then the big trucks because of maneuverability. the Poly/poly blades are get for drives, no damage to sealed drives, concrete or pavers
     
  8. Bob's 24 hour

    Bob's 24 hour Junior Member
    Messages: 14

    Basher.........Thanks and great points.

    Question? DP..........Dumb Person or something else?

    Bob
     
  9. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,992

    DP= Dumb Person; Yeah ME. Sorry about that, DP=Down Pressure 250psi on the wearedge
     
  10. theplowmeister

    theplowmeister 2000 Club Member
    from MA
    Messages: 2,551

    I have used many (4) jeeps over the years, not all as modified as this one. I had a 92 YJ with auto that was exclusively for plowing. I sold it to a Friend who still plows with it. That was the only auto I ever plowed with and I hated it!!

    to make an exultant plow jeep
    1) 7 1/2 plow with snow deflector. I have used Fisher RD poles and had the stow go over
    the top)
    2) add #300 to 500 pounds to the rear
    3) get some Gabriel Hijacker air shocks for the rear
    4) Gabriel Hijacker air shocks for the front (they don't list them but the shocks from the
    rear of a 1985 T-berd Fit the Jeep front.)
    5) Blizzak or other specialty (not all season not M+S) winter tires (the name of the
    game is traction.)

    6) back drag edge or down pressure (I have never used down pressure If you turn it off it
    would be great if not the front of the jeep is light already and Ive had occasions where
    I am pushing heavy snow with the plow angled and had the plow steer the jeep.
    Taking weight off the steering tires sounds like it would steer the jeep more).
     
  11. '76cj5

    '76cj5 Member
    Messages: 78

    YJ's started in 87,TJ's started in '97. TJ's have the round headlights and all have fuel injected 4.0. Great engines. YJ's had some carberated and some fuel injected engines.

    I'm running a 7' Meyer blade on my CJ5. A much smaller and lighter Jeep than a YJ or TJ. I don't have any problem plowing but I keep in in 4WD when I have the plow on on road. Putting a hard top on and Fuel cans on the tire carrier help me keep traction in the rear. .

    I have Monroe pneumatic load levelers on the front axle. My jeep only drops about 1/2" when I lift the plow. Great stuff.
     
  12. EWD

    EWD Junior Member
    Messages: 4

    jeep yj

    I just finnished rebulding a jeep yj its great, just had problems with the plow mount. snow way does'nt have the mounts for them anney more. i got a blizzard 720LT and had to drive to erie pa. to get the mount. The leaf springs handle the plow nice. TJ's tend to go for a lot of money.
     
  13. '76cj5

    '76cj5 Member
    Messages: 78

    Blizzaks or Winter Duelers (Same tire but for light trucks) are great probably the best tires. Take them off for the summer. I'm using Kumhos on my CJ but wish I could go back to stock width and height.

    My shocks actually are for a Ford F-100. NAPA is great for matching compressed vs extended lengths shock sizes. Since my CJ was lifted 2-1/2" The stock one were out of the question.

    I havn't used an DP either. I found if I move forward a touch before back dragging plants my plow dig in and works pretty good backdragging .
     
  14. mrmagnum

    mrmagnum Senior Member
    Messages: 162

    I have used my 1987 YJ yard truck for some time with the Meyers 6.5 and it works great. It has a 4.2 carb motor, 5 speed trans and stock suspension. I use Goodyear Wranglers all around for tires (30.5 size) and it walks through the snow great! My suggestion, when shopping for a Jeep, is if it has leaf springs you should check the frame around the shackles front and rear for rot and around the steering box VERY IMPORTANT! I have seen too may Jeeps esp. YJs rotted out in this area and the owner had no clue. I just put a new ST 7.0 on my "new" 1987 YJ and we'll see how that goes when the snow flies.
     
  15. Bob's 24 hour

    Bob's 24 hour Junior Member
    Messages: 14

    Basher, DP = Down Pressure or in my case (not use to it) Dumb Person, I’ve been there a few times. Again, thanks cj5 and meister.

    I’m looking for a 2000+ Wrangler as my back up and possably my main small storm truck. If you were I, what modifications would you do to a stock 4.0L automatic Wrangler to make it plowable for the winter (remember, over 50 driveways) and still leave it a summer drivable vehicle?

    OK....Your wish list for a 2000 plus Wrangler plow truck if this were your Wrangler?

    PS: I have Traction King 215/85R16 tires on my F350. Don’t know who makes them but a local tire distributor carried them. Great aggressive soft rubber snow tire. Obviously they are on my winter rims.

    Again, thanks
    Bob
     
  16. Sandbrew

    Sandbrew Member
    Messages: 38

    Hi Bob,

    I recently purchased a new to me 1994 Wrangler I-6 with a 5 speed with 129K on it. I then put a 6'8" Sno-way with a steel blade and DP on it. I've only had to plow 2 storms so far and it' has been great. I did a ton of research on the Jeep forums www.jeepforum.com before I bought the Jeep I did. There are some major diffences from Pre and Post 1996 The suspension is a major difference. Pre 1996 Wranglers have leaf springs and are very easy to upgrade. I did a spring upgrade and added a leaf for less than $330 installed after I installed the plow.

    My previous plow was a 1971 Bronco V-8 302 3 speed with a 6'6" Western. I plowed 6 winters with that rig before the no power steering lack of defroster and various other little things going wrong convinced me to upgrade. Like you I have only residential driveways about 18 in 5 mile radius. A big truck is just not practical for me. I need to be able to plow in and turn around in most drives.

    I think this rig will handle everything my last plow did. We get a ton of snow up here 285 inches last winter and long term average of over 180 inches. In our best storm we had 84 inches in just over 48 hours My little Bronco kept my driveway open but the county road was blocked for 5 days.

    Sandbrew

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    Last edited: Nov 26, 2007
  17. Luppy

    Luppy Senior Member
    Messages: 325

    Well as you can see, the Jeep is a very capable plow
    vehicle for private driveways and other types of tight
    spots that pickup trucks can't get into.

    Been plowing driveways solely with Jeeps for
    the past 19 years. Started with a 79' CJ7 auto trans, and now
    running a 97' Wrangler 6 cyl 5 spd. Most driveways I've
    done in one storm with the Wrangler was 45 (1 footer snowstorm).
    Using a Meyer 2 meter that I purchased new in 1999.
    Properly maintained this plow kicks ass. It stills works
    as good as it did the first time I plowed with it.
    Wouldn't trade my Jeep or my Meyer for anything.
     
  18. theplowmeister

    theplowmeister 2000 Club Member
    from MA
    Messages: 2,551

    what modifications would you do to a stock 4.0L automatic Wrangler to make it plowable for the winter (remember, over 50 driveways) and still leave it a summer drivable vehicle?

    For plowing I have had 3 Jeep with this setup and a frend of mine currently has 3 jeeps set up like this and one 3/4 ton PU (that sits in his drivway most storms)

    1) 7 1/2 plow with snow deflector. I have used Fisher RD poles and had the stow go over
    . the top)
    2) add #300 to 500 pounds to the rear
    3) get some Gabriel Hijacker air shocks for the rear
    4) Gabriel Hijacker air shocks for the front (they don't list them but the shocks from the
    . rear of a 1985 T-berd Fit the Jeep front.)
    5) Blizzak or other specialty (not all season not M+S) winter tires (the name of the
    . game is traction.)

    6) back drag edge or down pressure (I have never used down pressure If you turn it off it
    . would be great if not the front of the jeep is light already and Ive had occasions where
    . I am pushing heavy snow with the plow angled and had the plow steer the jeep.
    . Taking weight off the steering tires sounds like it would steer the jeep more).
     
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2007
  19. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,992

    Down pressure will cause a little:rolleyes: under-streer under some conditions.:cool: I had this development with a steep hill that turned 90 deg halfway down. come down that sucker in a 3/4 ton dodge with a spreader at 10mph dis-charging to the downhill side like you should you'd better have the DP off or you'd never make the corner.
     
  20. theplowmeister

    theplowmeister 2000 Club Member
    from MA
    Messages: 2,551

    Hi basher

    most of the mods are for off roading.
    I have used 2 stock jeeps set up as specified. a Friend has 3 jeeps set up that way also. The hijacker air shocks (not gas) provide about #1000/axle of lift, put them in the front and rear, add some weight to the back. (adding an extra leaf makes the ride without the plow so rough its terrible, I did that once!) Because of the extra weight your stopping distance is longer on pavement. Bigger brakes wold be a big plus, so you need to leave extra room in front of you and take it slower.

    so all this extra weight must ruin my Front end.
    I get 100K out of my ball joints
    30K out of my tierods
    120k wheel bearings (except for 1 wheel bearing from AutoZone lasted 31 days)

    if I can double my income (witch I did by using a jeep with the big plow) then i can spend more on repairs and still end up ahead.