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It Quit

Discussion in 'Sno-Way Discussion' started by tinymitymo, Jan 5, 2008.

  1. tinymitymo

    tinymitymo Member
    Messages: 91

    I was cleaning up from the last storm.....

    Raised the blade.....

    Went to straighten out the angle....

    And it quit....

    No up,left or right....

    It still goes down tho;)....

    The solenoid under the hood is clicking...

    All the wires and connections look good....

    No motor sound at all....

    Bad solenoid?Is this when you use a screwdirver to bypass the solenoid??

    Can bad things happen when you jump the solenoid??

    I HATE electricity so I am a little skittish about this whole process..:blush2:

    Any help appreciated...

    Yes,I still love my Sno-Way:D
     
  2. hydro_37

    hydro_37 PlowSite Veteran
    from iowa
    Messages: 3,790

    You can jump it. Sounds like the solenoid to me tho.
     
  3. tinymitymo

    tinymitymo Member
    Messages: 91

    Can you get a solenoid at an auto parts store??

    Are they specific to the brand??

    Lots of questions I know....

    But the only other hydraulic plows I have had were under hood pumps...

    This electric relay solenoid spark powered stuff is new to me...:dizzy:
     
  4. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,992

    Jump it and check but it's sounds like a 12volt MS to me.
     
  5. tinymitymo

    tinymitymo Member
    Messages: 91

    Thanks Basher!!

    I'm guessing by MS you mean motor solenoid....

    I'll see if I can get one tomorrow
     
  6. tinymitymo

    tinymitymo Member
    Messages: 91

    OK.......

    I went out today....it's about 40 degrees out.....

    It will work intermittently.....

    Won't respond....won't respond.....then it will raise but not angle.....

    Keep trying and then it will angle.....

    Sometimes it won't move at all...other times it will move very slowly.....sometimes it works fine......:confused::dizzy::cry:
     
    Last edited: Jan 6, 2008
  7. toby4492

    toby4492 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,513

    Is this a wired or wireless control?

    Intermittent function can be caused by a couple of different things. If wireless try changing the batteries on the control. If they are becoming underpowered this could be an issue. I would also check all electrical connections on the power circuit and make sure that they are clean and tight.

    If this is a wired control I would again check all electrical connections. Also check the connectors for the control circuit for a potential broken wire. How old is your plow and control? It is also possible that the touchpad could have shifted on the control not allowing to make good consistent contact.
     
  8. tinymitymo

    tinymitymo Member
    Messages: 91


    It is a wired control.....Black box with yellow face and 2 rocker swiches.....

    It is a 24d approximately 5-7 years old....

    All connections and wires look good....:help:
     
  9. toby4492

    toby4492 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,513

    Here is a link to the repair manual for the Fenner power unit on the plow.

    http://www.snoway.com/service/Fenner Repair/97100036A.pdf

    So I understand correctly, when you do functions they will work sometimes but not consistently? It sounds to me like a ground issue somewhere since it is an intermittent problem.
     
  10. tinymitymo

    tinymitymo Member
    Messages: 91


    Correct...once it starts working it will continue to work....Let it sit it will fight again.....

    Could this be a defective solenoid??
     
  11. toby4492

    toby4492 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,513

    Did you try jumping the solenoid? If you did and the plow operates normally then I would say it is a good place to start.
     
  12. tinymitymo

    tinymitymo Member
    Messages: 91


    I shall see if I can get a new solenoid.....

    Thanks for the help:drinkup:
     
  13. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,992

    12volt MSs don't normally play those games. they fail or they work. You say when it works it works, but when it doesn't it doesn't

    "Correct...once it starts working it will continue to work....Let it sit it will fight again....."

    What makes it stop or start working? Is there something you do?

    Could be a battery problem

    Have you changed the battery in the truck recently?

    Or maybe a combination of battery and improper fluids. Too viscous a fluid will create a number of things including higher amperage requirements, and resistance creating slower operating speeds.
     
  14. hydro_37

    hydro_37 PlowSite Veteran
    from iowa
    Messages: 3,790

    Possible water in the system freezing when it sits over ight????? Have you changed the fluid and cleaned the filter?
     
  15. tinymitymo

    tinymitymo Member
    Messages: 91


    That's just it.....

    I havent changed a thing....

    It has worked all season(and it has been a good one).......

    I will look at all my grounds and connections again tomorrow but I just don't get it:confused::dizzy::cry:
     
  16. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,992

  17. tinymitymo

    tinymitymo Member
    Messages: 91

    It did start to slow down noticeably before it quit the first time......

    I will put in a new battery tomorrow......

    Thanks for the help:drinkup:
     
  18. tinymitymo

    tinymitymo Member
    Messages: 91

    Turns out it was the motor solenoid....

    Thanks for the help folks!!!!:salute: