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Is this an f150 or f250 **Please help**

Discussion in 'Ford Trucks' started by handyandy, Aug 22, 2007.

  1. handyandy

    handyandy Junior Member
    Messages: 13

    Guys I thought some of you ford guys could help me here. I am thinking about buying this truck. I am told it is a F250 and as you can see in the pic there is a F250 badge on the fender. Problem is I got the vin # for the truck and according to carfax it's a '83 F150. Not a F250 as advertised. The vin # is 2FTDF15G5DCA77652.

    Can anyone here ID this truck from the pic and help me figure this out. F250 or F150?

    http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13680&d=1187221546
     
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2007
  2. ABES

    ABES PlowSite.com Addict
    from MN
    Messages: 1,322

    anybody can put a f250 badge on a f-150 my buddy just did it the other day.
     
  3. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,992

    Whats the title and weight sticker say?

    I'd believe the VIN and title before a fender
     
  4. handyandy

    handyandy Junior Member
    Messages: 13

    Wow you guys are quick and I'm thinking the same thing you are. BTW i edited my post with the vin # if that helps.
     
  5. bribrius

    bribrius PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,609

    I SAY F250.

    it could have been registered at one point as a 150 and thus the carfax report?
    counting lug nuts on front wheel and looking at wheel. hmm. lights acrossed roof. hmm. the fact its got the plow on it and its still alive.

    yeah. i say f250
    dunno if im right though. go count the leaf springs and bolts in rearend..

    im wrong. 150

    http://www.ford.com/en/vehicles/owners/recalls/results.htm
     
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2007
  6. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,992

     
  7. ABES

    ABES PlowSite.com Addict
    from MN
    Messages: 1,322

    an old truck like that could have 3/4 ton axles on it though that someone put on. but ya an old truck like that i wouldnt worry too much what truck it was
     
  8. bribrius

    bribrius PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,609


    yep . ford site says one fifty.

    must have added axles?

    i think its a messed up vin anyway. i tried decoding it letter for letter and it didnt add up with the eighties format, nineties format, or pre eighties format.
    it just didnt go letter for letter in the right sequence.

    unless im missing something with the vin change sequence in mid eighties......
     
  9. firelwn82

    firelwn82 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,861

    For sure 3/4 ton AKA F-250. Wheels, tires, Lugs, Stance all point to F-250. They may have put a different dash in it and left the serial plate. Ask the seller but all signs point to 3/4 ton F-250
     
  10. bribrius

    bribrius PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,609

    yeah. got the dual tanks too.

    wrong vin though.....
    i would definatley ask. the original vin could have been salvage title or maybe theft recovery (or not recovered at all).

    i dont see them changing out the dash for no reason. according to the vin you gave this truck is a two wheel drive f-150. i dont see them changing it from two wheel to four wheel any more than changing out the dash unless it was a fire recovery. id guess they just flipped the vin.

    Your VIN number: 2FTDF15G5DCA77652
    World Manufacturer Identifier - 1st, 2nd, 3rd Positions:
    Manufacturer: Ford Motor Company of Canada, Ltd., Canada

    Make: Ford

    Vehicle Type: Truck (Completed Vehicle)

    Brake Type and GVWR Class - 4th Position:

    Brake System: • Hydraulic brake system, Class D, GVWR 5,001-6,000 pounds, None

    Line Series, Chassis Type, Body Type - 5th, 6th, 7th Positions:

    Line Series: F-Series - F150

    Chassis Type: 4x2

    Body Type: Pickup - Regular Cab

    Engine Type - 8th Position:

    Engine: 5.8L (351cid)

    Cylinders: V-8

    Fuel Type: Gasoline

    Horse Power: TBD

    Model Year - 10th Position:

    Model Year: 1983

    Assembly Plant - 11th Position:

    Assembly Plant: Ontario Truck: Oakville, Ontario

    Production Sequence Number - 12th - 17th:

    Sequence Number: A77652
     
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2007
  11. handyandy

    handyandy Junior Member
    Messages: 13

    Ok guys now I'm more confused than ever. It does in fact LOOK like an F250 and maybe the front axle was swapped for a F250 axle. I don't know. The owner is COMPLETELY CLUELESS about what he has. I had him double check the vin and he told me that was what it read right off the title.

    The truck is quite a distance from me and I don't want to take a look at it unless I have a better idea what it is. Is there any other pics I can have him post that will clear this up? Even if it is an F150 but has and F250 axle I will probably buy. But if it is just a run of the mill 1/2 ton I'm gonna pass.

    Thanks,

    Jack
     
  12. stangman35

    stangman35 Senior Member
    Messages: 267

    Run the other direction and dont look back...lol

    sounds like a mess.The owner doesnt even seem to know what it is.
     
  13. DeereFarmer

    DeereFarmer PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,296

    That is an F250 for sure, but I would want to believe the title. Like stangman said, run fast. That sounds like nightmare unless you just want to use it as a yard truck. Registering that would be a pain IMO.
     
  14. WOODY367

    WOODY367 Senior Member
    from LI, NY
    Messages: 467

    At some point they might have switch cabs. Origanal cab might have rusted or been damage. The cab could have come from a F150 and the vin would stay. I did that exact thing. My cab burnt so I put a 150 cab on my 250. Its reg as the 150.
     
  15. handyandy

    handyandy Junior Member
    Messages: 13

    Why would it be a pain to register it? Even if it registers as a F150 why would it matter? Why are you guys so sure it is a F250? What's the give away. Even if it was a F150 with a F250 front axle then what's the problem? It will still have a 3/4 ton front axle. The owner did say it rides down the road good but it is a ruff ride...making me think 3/4 ton leafs up front as well. The truck is supposed to be a good runner and the plow supposedly works as it's supposed to. I can get it for $700. That is why I'm thinking of taking a chance on it but I still want to hear more of what you guys think? I'm a very capable wrencher but I can't seam to figure out this F150 or F250 deal.
     
  16. handyandy

    handyandy Junior Member
    Messages: 13

    Now that is a possibility. That's something I can talk to the guy about. Thanks.
     
  17. stangman35

    stangman35 Senior Member
    Messages: 267

    If the vin on the title matches the vin in the dash you might not have a problem.

    If its out of state here in Indiana you have to have a police check,cop checks title against vin on the dash.If checks out your goood to go.
     
  18. bribrius

    bribrius PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,609

    re register it as a one fifty. take the two fifty emblem off it. drive it and plow it.
    i would say it could have been stolen, or a salvage title but at this point not much you can do. you want the truck you buy the truck your register it as a half ton and dont look back.
     
  19. handyandy

    handyandy Junior Member
    Messages: 13

    Well I still don't know what the deal is with the title but the truck has 3/4 ton axles for sure. I got a bunch of pictures from the guy and I did some research. The axles are 8 lug and the truck is leaf sprung. From everything I have read F150's of that era only came coil sprung.

    I guess the next thing I'm trying to figure out now is weather or not the front axle is a TTB44HD or a TTB50. Anyone know how to tell the difference? I am told you can tell by looking at the hubs outside the wheels. If the hubs fill the wheel opening the axle is a dana 50. If the hubs are smaller it is a dana 44. Can anyone in the know look at the pics and tell which it is?

    I would post the other pics the guy e-mailed me but I don't know how to post them. If anyone could post them for me if I send them via e-mail to you it would be much appreciated.

    Thanks...
     
  20. WOODY367

    WOODY367 Senior Member
    from LI, NY
    Messages: 467

    If I am right the DANA 60 id a straight axle which is in the F350's. The F250 did not come with a soild straight axle till 98 or 99. The year and price why care. Reg it as the F150 and run the truck. Don't go crazy over it. Just work the hell out of it. just my $.02