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Is it legal to drive with a 12' or 14' pusher down the road during a storm?

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by farmboy52787, Feb 8, 2009.

  1. farmboy52787

    farmboy52787 Senior Member
    Messages: 114

    Hi

    Looking into getting a pusher for my commercial accounts for next season. Alot of them are in one area and I could drive the backhoe/loader whatever i decide to rent, and put a pusher on it. 14 feet would probably be pushing it, but not sure about 12. I am located in Maine so I'm not sure what the regulations are for construction equipment. I know that trucks with plows arent supposed to exceed 102". Any input is helpful. Thanks
     
  2. Rc2505

    Rc2505 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,245

    In Ohio, it would not be legal. You would need to build a trailer to put the pusher on and tow it behind. If you look at something like a combine head trailer, I would think that would work fine. Anything over 102 inches, would need a wide load permit, and that would be very cost prohibitive to file for one when you don't know when it will snow, and what time the snow comes. Much simpler to just get a trailer.
     
  3. payton

    payton Senior Member
    Messages: 470

    we move back hos with pushers all the time. just escort them with another truck..
     
  4. tjlands

    tjlands Senior Member
    Messages: 577

    Might not be legal, but it is fun driving down the road with a 12ft pusher. Never been pulled over but we usually will have a truck directly behind.
     
  5. ABES

    ABES PlowSite.com Addict
    from MN
    Messages: 1,322

    We go down the road with 14' pushers. Its usually the middle of the night when there isnt much traffic. There is usually a truck working with them that escorts the tractor/loader with a strobe light.
     
  6. hydro_37

    hydro_37 PlowSite Veteran
    from iowa
    Messages: 3,790

    It's only illegal if you get caught.
    People here run them down the road. usually when traffic is low or at night.
     
  7. 7.3 Plower

    7.3 Plower Senior Member
    Messages: 221

    You'd be 5 and a half feet too wide to run legally with a 14' pusher. I'd get a wagon and toss the pusher on it like someone else suggested. That wouldn't work too well with a backhoe, but it'd work pretty well with a loader.
     
  8. MrBillsLawn

    MrBillsLawn Member
    Messages: 44

    We used to drive down the road with a 16' box, just make sure that it is snowing and you have a truck with a flasher behind. Not many cops want to get out of their cars when the snow is beating down. It also helps when you can stick to roads with really wide shoulders, this way you can get the box off the road. The funniest thing you will ever see is when you are going down the road faster then cars and you have to lift the box over cars to pass them. Makes me laugh every time.
     
  9. RLM

    RLM PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,270

    In NY you can run with up to a 25' plow with an overwidth permit. The permit is $ 250/yr, you need flags & flashers on the plow/pusher, I believe thats it, I only looked it over brefily, we generally keep our 14 in one areas & use the 10 for "down the road", which is still over width, but not as obvious.
     
  10. mullis56

    mullis56 Senior Member
    from Indiana
    Messages: 824

    As Payton said we move ours all over never any issues.
     
  11. farmboy52787

    farmboy52787 Senior Member
    Messages: 114

    Thanks everyone for there input
     
  12. QuadPlower

    QuadPlower PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,056

    People do it all the time. I probably would do it if it wasn't that far.

    On the other hand, it IS illegal and what happens if the driver gets distracted and hits someone. The judge would nail your a$$ to the wall.

    I like the trailer idea. Like someone said get a combine head trailer. Drop it on the trailer, through some chains on it, hook it behind and go. Or use the truck helping to pull it. Get to the site and reverse procedure. It would also work good for hauling it back to the shop at the end of
    the season with a truck and work good to move it around at the shop yard if it was on the trailer.
     
  13. Krieger91

    Krieger91 Senior Member
    Messages: 353

    I doubt it's "legal" but you could get away with it easily. If you're running at night, or in a snowstorm, with a flasher-equipped truck escorting it, I doubt a cop would pull you over for it. If he is, he's being a dick, in my opinion.

    Obviously that chagnes if it's heavier traffic or if you're going long distances.
     
  14. forestfireguy

    forestfireguy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,276

    We did it with a 12 footer on our backhoe a couple years ago as it split time between 2 sites about a mile apart, got a fat ticket and bought a folding box instead.
     
  15. dirt digger

    dirt digger Senior Member
    Messages: 619

    thats a good question....we move farm equipment around here all the time in the summer...we've moved at 5am, rush hour, we even do moves at mid-night too if we have too. We are also right down the road from the state police barracks and never had a problem. If the machine is not licensed for road travel i don't think you would need an overwidth permit, i know you don't need a driver license to drive an unlicensed vehicle such as a tractor...but then again johnny law and i never seem to agree on anything
     
  16. zabMasonry

    zabMasonry Senior Member
    from vt
    Messages: 100

    in vt you can run just about anything down the road with a slow moving vehicle sign.
     
  17. elite1msmith

    elite1msmith 2000 Club Member
    from chicago
    Messages: 2,762

    i think even if it were legal to drive it down the road, if your guy hits a driver, ur a$$ is still nailed to the wall...so whats the difference

    I doubt the cops would hastel you too much

    one idea...i dont know how many places that you do, but i have seen guys buy multiple pushers , and just drop them , and leave them at the site, then drive the equiptment down the road

    i know thats an expensive way to go, but a trailer, hitched up to a tractor in the snow? the trailer might need plates? the tractor might not be able to be plated... what about driving too slow? some places can give you a ticket for that.... so if you have a leicesnsed trailer, then all the laws apply to you? then you have to secure your pusher to a trailer , properly..which takes time , and is a pain in the butt.... hook up the trailer, and reverse the process.... paid labor over 2-3 years plus the trailer might begin to get close to what a 2nd pusher might cost....that is if you only need 2

    i would either drive it down the road till you get warned, or leave the plow behind, and get a second one


    i would say one way or the other , no matter what you do , if johnny law wants your a$$ , hes gonna get it.
     
    Last edited: Feb 9, 2009
  18. Mark13

    Mark13 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,737

    For a trailer someting like a bean/corn head trailer for a combine could probably be adapted easy enough. Or just get running gear for a hay wagon and fabricate some sort of a cradle on it to hold the blade/pusher. Won't have to worry about plates since they were never built with the intentions of being liscenses, just an SMV sign should be good. Single pin hookup and weld 2 rachet straps to the wagon somehow so you just set the pusher on it, throw the loose end of the straps over, rachet them down and off you go. Shouldn't take more then a couple minutes to go from plowing mode to transport mode and back when you get to the next lot.
     
  19. mullis56

    mullis56 Senior Member
    from Indiana
    Messages: 824

    No issues in Indy, people way above us do it all of the time. You guys are making a big deal out of nothing.....Just be careful and have an escort. How many times in the summer time have you seen construction equipment moving from place to place on a site? All of the time, just use an escort.
     
    Last edited: Feb 9, 2009
  20. mulcahy mowing

    mulcahy mowing Senior Member
    Messages: 718

    i see them run down the road all the time but then again, guys have hideaways in the brake lights witch are red and have white strobes an just about everything else illegal you can think of the local police here dont care to much...its a snow storm...get over it