1. Welcome to PlowSite. Notice a fresh look and new features? Explore this quick video tour of updates and enhancements. It’s now easier to share photos and videos, find popular topics fast, and enjoy expanded user profiles. If you have any questions, click HELP at the top or bottom of any page, or send an email to help@plowsite.com. We welcome your feedback.

    Dismiss Notice

Is it illegal or against the law to push snow across a road?

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by farmboy52787, Nov 16, 2008.

  1. farmboy52787

    farmboy52787 Senior Member
    Messages: 113

    I picked up a residential driveway here in Maine the other day and the lady was telling me that the guy who plows an apartment building across the street, pushes snow across the road onto her front lawn or in front of her driveway and just leaves it. Is that illegal or against the law? Is there anything I can do if i catch the guy in the act doing it this winter? Thanks
     
  2. cretebaby

    cretebaby PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,164

    typically yes

    just put it back in his driveway:D

    seriously just call the PO PO if its a problem
     
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2008
  3. SNOWANDICEMAN

    SNOWANDICEMAN Senior Member
    Messages: 225

    Illegal to push snow

    It is illegal to push snow onto a public road or highway and it is also illegal to push snow on to other peoples property without there permission. If you see the contractor who does this you might want to tell him not to do it. Or maybe take a picture catching him putting the snow on someone Else's property or you COULD have the property owner contact the other property owner and tell them. SNOWANDICEMAN
     
  4. purpleranger519

    purpleranger519 Senior Member
    from Kansas
    Messages: 539

    Its against the law here ...in our city ordinance...and carries a $150 fine..which i know from experience ..
     
  5. RichG53

    RichG53 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,135

    But it's ok for the city to plow snow on to your property...I think it's ok as long as you clean up your wind rows not like some doe here in S. E. WI.
     
  6. YardMedic

    YardMedic PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,266

    Are you freakin serious? Are you one of those ****** that thinks the city singles people out by "dumping" snow only in front of their driveways? News flash: city plows push snow OFF the streets, and... you guessed it... onto your property, and the neighbor's property, and their neighbors' properties.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 16, 2008
  7. cretebaby

    cretebaby PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,164

    well typically they plow the snow into the right of way

    it is not always illegal to push across the road its a local law when it is
     
  8. NoFearDeere

    NoFearDeere PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,709

    Some city/states are different. It is illegal to move snow into a public roadway and leave it there in Illinois. However, if it is removed and you arent pushing onto someone else's property, your ok. In your case, that's illegal. Call the police if it happens and they can track the moron down and paper hang them;)
     
  9. cjasonbr

    cjasonbr Senior Member
    from Mass
    Messages: 635

    It's illegal in WI, Wisconsin Statute 346.94(5). That took me 3 seconds to google, i don't run a business in WI nor have i ever been to WI. Why do i know this and you don't rich?
     
  10. Farm Boss

    Farm Boss Senior Member
    Messages: 183

    Just avoid pushing across the road all together. Then you won't have to worry about traffic when you are trying to drive across the road, won't have to worry about anyone saying you left snow in the road or causing and accident. It is illegal here in MN. Just good practice to avoid.
     
  11. Detroitdan

    Detroitdan PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,937

    It used to be illegal here in NH to push across a road, for some reason they changed it a few years ago. Should be in my opinion, it is pretty dangerous to do, plus I've seen places where the plower builds up a huge snowbank across the street that creeps into the right of way, and the town plows cant cut it back, they kind of ride along it so it never gets pushed back where it belongs. So you end up with a narrow spot in the road in a bad location.
    I used to stop people when I caught them and tell them it is against the law, back when it still was. Without fail they would argue with me and whine that there is nowhere else to put the snow. Bull, you can figure out a way. Or at least don't do it right in front of the police on a blind hill with no emergency beacon.
    Some of the worse offenders are the guys plowing their neighbors and themselves with their tractor with a bucket. All they do is make a huge mess and it takes them ten times longer. Plowing with a tractor loader bucket has to be the biggest waste of time
    In all reality, it doesn't really bother me as long as people use common sense about it. It's just that they never seem to. I've had to track down plowers who left foot deep (or more) windrows going across the road, then they say the highway dept would clean it up anyway. Well, not if they are all done (which they were), and in the meantime a car could lose control either by hitting the windrow or trying to stop quickly when they encounter it.
    I know I'll probaby take heat over this post. To answer your question, yes I have plowed across a road myself, but I won't do it on a busy road, or when it isn't necessary IMO, and I do it with a ton of warning light and a great deal of caution. And I don't leave ANY snow on the road when I'm done.
     
  12. cjasonbr

    cjasonbr Senior Member
    from Mass
    Messages: 635

    From what i can tell it's against maine state law also.
     
  13. purpleranger519

    purpleranger519 Senior Member
    from Kansas
    Messages: 539

    What really sucks is when you have a sidewalk that your responsible to keep clear...just happens to be about 100 yards long....and runs with the street...sucks when the city plows and all that snow goes on my nuce clean ...sidewalk.
     
  14. NBI Lawn

    NBI Lawn PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,797

    Thats a big NO NO in Minnesota. I got stopped for it like 9 years ago, guy was cool and just said dont do it again. That may have been one of the first times I ever plowed
     
  15. azandy

    azandy Member
    Messages: 73

    It is illegal in WI and even if you clean up real nice. Someone could be driving on the unplowed county road and hit your clean area and spin out because of the transition. If they can prove you plowed across the road, your liable. Most of the time the problem occurs when a tractor with a trip bucket is pushing his own drive across the road and leaves crap piled on the edges.
     
  16. cjasonbr

    cjasonbr Senior Member
    from Mass
    Messages: 635

    OK girls. Here's the best i could find. There may be more laws in any state, but these are the ones i found. Only state laws here.

    Maine:
    §2396. Certain substances on public ways: 4. Snow. A person may not place and allow to remain on a public way snow or slush that has not accumulated there naturally.

    NH:
    236:20 Snow Obstruction. – Any person who shall put or place or cause to be put or placed any snow or ice upon the surface of the traveled portion of any class I, class III, or class III-a highway or state maintained portion of any class II highway for any purpose, except to provide a place necessary for crossing, recrossing and traveling upon said highways by sleds, logging or farm equipment, shall be guilty of a violation if a natural person, or guilty of a misdemeanor if any other person. The provisions of this section shall not apply where snow or ice is pushed across the traveled surface of said highways for the purpose of snow removal from land adjoining said highways.

    MA:
    Chapter 85: Section 7B. Depositing snow on state highways
    Section 7B. No person other than an employee in the service of the commonwealth or any political subdivision thereof or an employee in the service of an independent contractor acting for the commonwealth or any such subdivision shall pile, push or plow snow or ice onto a state highway so as to impede the flow of traffic on such way. Whoever violates this section shall be punished by a fine of not more than one hundred and fifty dollars.
     
  17. TPC Services

    TPC Services Senior Member
    Messages: 879

    For the two ***** on here that thinks the city should ' nt be pushing snow up there in the first place
    1, where the heck else do you think they are going to put in push the hole rd to a intersection then have a loader laod in a dump truck an take it away, CAN YOU SAY HIRE TAXES DA
    2, depending on the R.O.W on each rd you really do'nt own it it's part of the city's utillity franchise easment how the heck you think you get your water gas and other utillities! you must mantain it which sucks but that life in a demacratic goverment!!
    3, On where to put ur aproch's piles I for one spent the extra time to push it out in to the street on MY SIDE OF THE RD and then pull out in rd and push it back up on my curbs on either side of the drives opening, ( that's what a respectable contractor would do!!!) an o boo who it takes me 5mins to do that then you should not be in busniess if you have not put that in to your time, ( THIS SOME CALL IS PART OF YOUR CLEAN UP)
    4, And it's call Common courtesy to your fellow snow removal contractors/ and your clients Neighbors
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 16, 2008
  18. Bruce'sEx

    Bruce'sEx Senior Member
    Messages: 873

    Against the By-laws here to push onto any road.

    And they do patroll some of the roads that everyone does it.

    We had one call, that was Truck and loader, truck pushed all snow to one place for loader to stack it. Well one big storm I was pushing snow down the path and you have to make a turn to the loader, well so much snow, I wasn't going to make it, so I pushed right across the road cleaned it up. And the buy law enforcer was down the street, gave me a warning as she said she can see we don't do this. compared to anyone else on the street that does it every storm. No sidewalks on this street. But yeah against the by-laws here.
     
  19. mercer_me

    mercer_me PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,350

    In Maine it is ileagal and the guys who plow the roads will call the cops my freind plows roads and he has called the cops on people becouse he doesn't want to break his wing on a pile of frozen snow.
     
  20. hydro_37

    hydro_37 PlowSite Veteran
    from iowa
    Messages: 3,793

    Are you kidding me???:dizzy:
    I like it when the city dumps snow in driveways......I get to charge a little to clean out the ends after the city dumps the snow....payup