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Installing a set of Pro Wings tomorrow...

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by Snowpower, Oct 13, 2007.

  1. Snowpower

    Snowpower Senior Member
    Messages: 636

    Any last minute recommendations or suggestions by anyone who has done it before?

    Has anyone come up with the right set up to reinforce the wing to avoid bending?

    Thanks guys.
     
  2. Dakotaplowboy

    Dakotaplowboy Member
    Messages: 68

    My Experience

    I bought a 7'6" western last year that already had the pro wings. Busted the welds last year on one. Mine have some extra steel welded to the back of the plow where the pin on the wing runs through the plow. The wings, if they are pro wings that you got are tought. I hit a dumpster with the plow last year, bent a corner a little, just bent it back out. Be sure to line them up right, I had to re-do the one a broke like three times before I got it on right. They work really good though, they are well worth it.
     
  3. Snowpower

    Snowpower Senior Member
    Messages: 636

    That steel on the back of your plow where the pin goes through the plow is actually the square flat washer thats included in the kit.

    Im not welding my kit on as it's going on a poly blade.
     
  4. Jay brown

    Jay brown PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,783

    we run some on a a few poly plows and it is a MUST to weld them on a poly plow. it's just IMO. otherwise you'll be busting the poly moldbord.
     
  5. Snowpower

    Snowpower Senior Member
    Messages: 636

    How do you weld metal to urethane?

    :dizzy:
     
  6. yamaguy

    yamaguy Senior Member
    Messages: 556

    A poly plow still has a steel frame!:p
     
  7. Snowpower

    Snowpower Senior Member
    Messages: 636

    Yes but you dont mount any of this to the frame (see below) unless you want to redo the geometry and reshape the brackets and Im not at all convinced it will be as solid as doing it factory with some extra support I have planned.

    One of the mounting bolts on each pin bracket is getting bolted through the outside frame rib.
     
  8. Jay brown

    Jay brown PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,783

    you'll have to weld a brace from the hinge pin to the steel frame
     
  9. yamaguy

    yamaguy Senior Member
    Messages: 556

    Take that SnowPower!:gunsfiring: JK
     
  10. powerjoke

    powerjoke PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,341

    are you guys talking about the square black washer with a crease in it, i nevefr welded mine to plow i just put 'em on every time i put the wings on and i never had a problem but i could see where it would be beneficial 8' western pro. Does anybody have any experiance with western wings i am probablly going to put the pro-wings on my 8' diamond Where is the best price on western wings
     
  11. Snowpower

    Snowpower Senior Member
    Messages: 636

    Yeah the only thing I am doing is adding a larger flat washer system to the bolts that go through the moldboard (2 per side) The other two go through the frame anyhow.
     
  12. Jay brown

    Jay brown PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,783

    so are you welding braces from the hinge pins (4) to the outside steel rib? if not i would highly reconsider doing so. hope this helps. they say that the poly is stronger than steel but i think they are full of it.
     
  13. Snowpower

    Snowpower Senior Member
    Messages: 636

    Im not welding anything. Im installing it as designed but beefing up the back support of any bolts that go through poly as a precaution.

    We'll be fine.

    Im not an animal on my equipment and am fairly gentle.
     
  14. Jay brown

    Jay brown PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,783

    installing it as designed???? it's not designed for poly plows......trust me and take my advice and weld the pins to the outside rib or you'll be sorry... the first curb you hit hard by back dragging and you'll have a busted moldboard.
     
  15. RickinMt

    RickinMt Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    Pro-Wings

    New to the list:
    Got mine yesterday and will go on a Meyers 7 and a half footer.

    There were no directions or templates like I would have expected..especially to locate the hole in the moldboard.

    Did they come with directions?

    Regards,
    RickinMt.:help:
     
  16. Jay brown

    Jay brown PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,783

    yes they do... i would call them and have them send you a set. remember when you measure up for drilling the "big hole", measure up from the moldboard, not the cutting edge.
     
  17. RickinMt

    RickinMt Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    Pro-Wings

    Thanks much Jay. I've read here where the big hole is 8" in from the side, but that's it. That will give me a start as the wing doesn't even come close to fitting the moldboard contour. I do plan on welding the hinges onto the outer frame rib. Plan now is to build a sacrificial plywood moldboard and see how that works out for locating the big hole, but I'll keep looking for the manu. instructions. Even they might be off as now I'm not bolting the hinge to the moldboard. We'll see how it goes today.

    Thanks again!
    Rick
    PS: Would it be safe to say the bottom edge of the wing is parallel to the ground?
     
  18. Snowpower

    Snowpower Senior Member
    Messages: 636

    If you are going to weld them to the rib, then the geometry will be all different and the instructions wont do you much good. They can be downloaded at the Buyers website fyi.

    There is no "measuring up" from anything. The large pin hole in the moldboard is totally dependent on where the outer pins are located. Period. Has nothing to do with the cutting edge or anything.

    And I am mounting it stock to a poly board. What you arent understanding is that one of the bolts goes through the steel rib(on eachpin bracket). One does not and will be beefed up. That and I am gentle on my gear and this unit is specific to be used at a storage facility. The rest of my jobs wont be getting winged.
     
  19. RickinMt

    RickinMt Junior Member
    Messages: 7

  20. Snowpower

    Snowpower Senior Member
    Messages: 636

    If you are mounting to a steel plow, just bolt them on. I am a bit concerned about mine being poly, but with a few fab upgrades, good solid mounting, and not beating the hell out of it I am confident it will hold up.

    Did you get the instructions at Buyer?


    Oh yes now I see you did. Cool.
     
    Last edited: Nov 1, 2007