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Injector trouble codes

Discussion in 'Chevy Trucks' started by Bigcat99, Nov 29, 2012.

  1. Bigcat99

    Bigcat99 Senior Member
    Messages: 126

    My 04.5 LLY (165K) threw a P0205 "Injector Circuit Open" code early last week. I have a Bully Dog GT on it, so I cleared the DTC, and shut her down for a minute or so and when I started her back up, she ran fine... till early this morning. Driving down the road in the middle of nowhere at 3:30am, CEL light comes on, she loses virtually all power, and the GT says the same thing with the P0205 code. Do same thing as I did last week and she runs fine all day till I am pulling in to the pumps to refuel late this afternoon. CEL comes back on, and this time the GT give me four codes. P0202, P0205, P0208 for those three injector circuits, and also P2149 "Injector group B circuit open". I reset the DTC's again and turn off engine again for a few minutes while refueling. Start it back up, and she's running fine again...for now.

    Talked to the owner of the shop where this vehicle has been getting all maintenance and repairs done for the last 4+ years, and he mentions that there is a good chance I will be doing injectors. He said he will make a few calls in the morning to get some more opinions, and I will be talking with him around lunch. Anyone have any ideas on whether this could end up being something less costly than an injector job?
     
  2. skostur79

    skostur79 Member
    from ne ohio
    Messages: 67

    make sure the injector harness is not damaged or pin drag is correct

    have them ref this gm service bulletin

    #06-06-04-026A
     
  3. brad96z28

    brad96z28 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,526

    Have seen very few injector trouble on lly motors. Id ck the harness real close.
     
  4. skostur79

    skostur79 Member
    from ne ohio
    Messages: 67

    LLY Intermittent SES/MIL Lamp Illuminated, Reduced Engine Power, Fuel Injector Driver Circuit DTCs P0201, P0202, P0203, P0204, P0205, P0206, P0207, P0208 and Cylinder Bank Shut Down DTCs P2146 or P2149 (Replace Affected Injector Connector Pigtail Harness)






    Models:

    2004–2005 Chevrolet Kodiak C4500/C5500 Series, Silverado Models







    2004–2005 GMC Sierra Models, TopKick C4500/C5500 Series







    with 6.6L Duramax™ Diesel Engine (VIN 2 — RPO LLY)



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    This bulletin is being revised to update the Kent Moore tool number used on inspecting the injector connections. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 06-06-04-026 (Section 06 — Engine/Propulsion System).
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    Condition


    Some customers may comment that the Service Engine Soon lamp is illuminated and/or intermittent along with a significant reduction in engine power (limp home mode). Upon investigation, the technician may find one or multiple injector driver circuit diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs) P0201, P0202, P0203, P0204, P0205, P0206, P0207, P0208 and bank shut down DTCs P2146 or P2149.

    Correction

    Important: If the published diagnostics lead to an injector connector on cylinders 2 and 7, the 2 and 7 cylinder injector connectors must be repaired and supported as per bulletin 05-06-04-047B.


    If the published diagnostics lead to an injector connector on cylinders 1, 3, 4, 5, 6 or 8, replace the affected injector connector pigtail harness with P/N 88988963 using the following repair procedure.




    1.

    Complete normal SI diagnosis for the trouble codes set.





    2.

    Injector circuit or injector coil tests may be normal until the engine reaches operating temperature. Recheck circuit/injector resistance readings with a warm engine.







    Important: Dealer technicians are to repair wire chafes at the Fuel Injection Control Module (FICM) as needed. Follow the correct SI wiring repair procedures. Insulate the harness from the aluminum retaining bracket with suitable material (electrical conduit or heater hose) so the harness will not chafe again.







    Important: When diagnostics are being completed for Injector Driver Fault codes, the dealer technician may notice the Fuel Injection Control Module (FICM) connector is wet or has a wet residue on it. The FICM connectors do have a type of dielectric grease that may be mistaken for diesel fuel. The FICM should not be replaced if this type of wet residue is found. Clean and dry the connectors as needed. No extra dielectric grease needs to be added to the FICM connectors.





    3.

    Inspect for wire harness chafes on the Fuel Injection Control Module (FICM) wiring harness retaining bracket. This is an aluminum bracket very close to the FICM connectors. If any part of the taped portion of the harness is touching the FICM wiring harness retaining bracket, then you must look for chaffing on the wiring harness. It must be disconnected from the FICM and bent back towards the engine. Look for any chafes into the tape. If necessary peel the tape from the area and look for any chafes into the wires. Some of these chafes are very small, possibly the size of a pen tip, but could still cause injector circuit concerns.





    4.

    If diagnosis is inconclusive, inspect the injector connections on all related cylinders. Pin drags and terminal tension can be checked with Kent Moore tool number J 35616-35.





    5.

    Clear the trouble codes and then wiggle test the related injector connectors to see if the trouble codes can be induced. If the vehicle had only injector circuit codes for P0202 or P0207 (with bank shutdown P2146 or P2149), and the wiggle test induces a P0202 or P0207 to reset, use bulletin number 05-06-04-047B to repair the injector connectors and install the injector harness support kit.





    6.

    If the trouble codes or customer concern is induced during the wiggle test on any other cylinders (other then P0202/P0207), replace the affected injector connector pigtail with P/N 88988963. This replacement pigtail can be used to repair any cylinder except number 2 and number 7. The 2 and 7 cylinder connectors must be repaired and supported as per bulletin 05-06-04-047B.


    Parts Information









    Part Number




    Description






    88988963




    Pigtail Harness, Fuel Injector Connector
     
  5. Bigcat99

    Bigcat99 Senior Member
    Messages: 126

    Thanks for posting the service bulletin! Will be checking the harness in the morning.

    Much appreciated!