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I hate to ask but I am going to anyway

Discussion in 'Networking' started by pabaker66, Dec 17, 2012.

  1. pabaker66

    pabaker66 Senior Member
    Messages: 117

    Has anybody worked for or herd of M and H landscaping and services? The info they sent me is a joke but maybe I am missing something.

    thanks
     
  2. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    Post it up!
     
  3. Spool it up

    Spool it up Senior Member
    Messages: 912

    i could use a good laugh myself
     
  4. coldcoffee

    coldcoffee Senior Member
    Messages: 776

    Isn't it H & M Landscaping? We've bumped shoulders a few times.
     
  5. pabaker66

    pabaker66 Senior Member
    Messages: 117

    Hi Paul,



    The following is a general overview of snow removal requirements and pay. If you have any additional questions or concerns, please feel free to give me a call at . Also, if you are interested in traveling out of your area, I will be more than willing to commpensate you for gas reimbursement. Thank you.



    **Requirements**

    1. Snow REMOVAL can ONLY be performed at a property if there are 3 inches or more of snow present on the driveways, walkways, and sidewalks.

    2. ONLY remove snow from the FRONT of the property.

    3. Must include DURING photos of you APPLYING SALT or Liquid Deicer on the areas in which the snow was removed.

    4. ONLY go out to the property when I send you the order, otherwise, you will NOT get PAID for the work.

    5. Must include photos with a measuring stick in your BEFORE and AFTER showing that the snow present is 3 inches or more.

    6. IMPORTANT: There will be NO trip charges if no work is completed at the property; therefore, I will advise you to pay close attention to the weather forecast before going out to the property.

    7. Lastly, it pays $15 per property.

    8. CALL SOU if you have any problems at the property.



    **BEFORE Photos**

    -Measure the depth of the snow with a yard stick marker(take photo)

    -Take photos of street sign, and house address

    -Photos of:

    -Driveway

    -Walkway to house

    -Sidewalk and entry way/porch to house where lockbox is present

    -Take additional photos of snow in the front yard.



    **DURING Photos**

    -Take 4-6 photos during photos showing snow being removed. Your equipment must be present in these photos.

    -During photos must include equipment being used with house in background of the pictures.

    -IMPORTANT: Take during photos showing that you are applying salt/deicer to walkways, driveways, and sidewalks.



    **AFTER Photos**

    -After photos must show that snow removed from the driveway, walkways, sidewalks, and porch (if present).

    -Your before and after photos must be taken at matching angles.





    Thank You,



    Sou Saephan

    MH Landscaping & Services
     
  6. CashinH&P

    CashinH&P Senior Member
    Messages: 448

    That is WAY too much ******** for that amount of money.
     
  7. White Gardens

    White Gardens 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,665

    Wow.......

    The nationals aren't even that hardcore...........

    But, if you want subs to do the work and have a reason not to pay them, then set rules like this.


    ..........
     
  8. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    Send him a pix of your brown star and tell him to kiss it.
     
  9. White Gardens

    White Gardens 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,665

    No, doubt. 15 bucks would be my charge to get out of the truck. Then I start adding for pics, rulers, etc...... Carbon for taking pics and sending them via-email isn't free you know.







    ..........
     
  10. thesnowman269

    thesnowman269 Senior Member
    Messages: 954

    the company is owned my three brothers. ive ran into them a few times. they're some weird guys but their shop is right down the road from my house. i see them almost every where i go. my friend planned on subbing his dump truck out to them this winter but after meeting with one of the brothers he decided not to. he just seemed a little to high strung and he didnt want anything to do with it. after reading your post however im surprised my friend even considered it.
     
  11. G.Landscape

    G.Landscape Senior Member
    from Ontario
    Messages: 850

    The requirement almost contrediit themselves. It says....

    "ONLY go out to the property when I send you the order, otherwise, you will NOT get PAID for the work."
    Then it says:
    "IMPORTANT: There will be NO trip charges if no work is completed at the property; therefore, I will advise you to pay close attention to the weather forecast before going out to the property. "

    Just Run.....
     
  12. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    Keep some stock photos and send them to him.
     
  13. Spool it up

    Spool it up Senior Member
    Messages: 912

    Outfits like these and their greaseball subs tend to pay top dollar when their clients properties go unsigned or undermanaged THEN, a blizzard hits their market area . remember , most of these brokers are like an insurance company with high risk management . we find that they can and have indeed ended up paying up to 3x the market value by getting caught with their pants down .

    Getting paid is the art of the deal . it usually ends up in arbitration by using their bonds. What does it mean for these companies to be bonded? It means that a bonding company (also known as a surety) is guaranteeing the performance of their business for the scope of work. If the bonded business (the principal) fails to fulfil the bond guarantee, then the obligee (whoever is requiring the bond) can file a claim to recoup losses incurred and more.

    laymans terms .......They (snow broker) gets hired by Walmart for 12 area stores for a seasonal price . $300,000.00. Thats $25,000 each strore . They sign up 12 snow removal companies ,one for each store .

    stay with me now ...Joe Shmo cant complete the task of removing 28'' off of 25 acres of asphalt . The snow broker calls you , a well established paving contractor with unlimited resources (equipment ,manpower and material on hand within a days notice.)

    You bang the living hell out of Joe Shmo's insurance bond with union rates and high material,fuel percentage mark-ups . Walmart has to be open to make money ,so there it is in a nutshell.

    Thats where the sharks eat the guppies . Believe me , when "NOBODY ,MOVE AND THISISASTICK-UP" law firm sends the note , they pay ...eventually .

    and you dont even have to bring a camera , cause Walmarts' runs 24/7. and you also get to bid on removing and replacing all the concrete curbing they were so concerned about , in the spring ! It's also known as Capitalism . A good thing .
     
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2012
  14. Wilnip

    Wilnip Senior Member
    Messages: 583

    Wow that's awesome. Are you supposed to have your phone in one hand and a shovel or be pushing the spreader on theother to show "during" photos of you shoveling ans salting? And they will throw you a whole $15?
     
  15. snoproblem

    snoproblem Junior Member
    Messages: 12

    All that before taxes!!!!! Oh yea,sign me up!!!these guys gotta be on some pretty good stuff!!!
     
  16. pabaker66

    pabaker66 Senior Member
    Messages: 117

    You must be thinking of someone else. This company is out of California.

    I did forget to mention that the properties they wanted me to handle are 60 miles away!!!:laughing:
     
  17. Spool it up

    Spool it up Senior Member
    Messages: 912

    do you need a hall pass to use the restroom . i met people like this , stay far away as possible from them . they are the type of people that when they come home thru the door after work , his own dog bites him .

    I really believe he also hides his own Easter eggs
     
  18. redskinsfan34

    redskinsfan34 Senior Member
    Messages: 877

    Is there anyone who would be that desparate to work for that rate? I wouldn't show up at the address for $15. Weird.
     
  19. Sawboy

    Sawboy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,591

    This!!! For sure
     
  20. suzuki0702

    suzuki0702 Senior Member
    Messages: 649

    There was an group on here i almost hooked up with that was real similar to these jokers.. these are the types that are driving around the 88 chevy with the cable operated rusty blade that work for fuel costs...See them alllll over akron!