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How to price snow plowing a commercial lot

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by snowplowers, Jul 26, 2016.

  1. snowplowers

    snowplowers Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    New to this! I'm not use to plowing any commercial lots and bidding them on how much snow per occurrence. I am looking for help on how to price a lot that is around 200,000sf for 1-3", 3.1"-6", and 6.1"- 8" as well as calculating prices for salting the lot each time for both rock salt and treated salt. Another option the customer asked for was for a seasonal quote with everything included (snow removal lot and sidewalks and salting). Guessing you would need either a bobcat or loader to do a lot this size. Anything would be much appreciated!
     
  2. CARDOCTOR

    CARDOCTOR PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,310

    are you bidding directly or thru a natl company
     
  3. snowplowers

    snowplowers Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    I would be bidding this lot directly from who manages the lot.
     
  4. truckitup

    truckitup Senior Member
    Messages: 257

    For that size lot you will need more then a bobcat.. At least two loaders with 12-20 foot pushers and a truck to cut in with. Plus I would have a good size salt truck, at least one that can haul 2-5 ton.

    I would not recommend, jumping into something that big for your 1st commercial
    job. Just my 2 sense
     
  5. snowplowers

    snowplowers Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    The company that previously did it only used one load with a 14' pusher. I currently have a couple more lots maybe a little smaller than this one but are seasonal contracts with everything inclusive. I'm not sure how you would bid a 190,000 s.f. lot like this as far as 1-3", 3.1"-6", and 6.1"- 8"
     
  6. truckitup

    truckitup Senior Member
    Messages: 257

    Not sure we measure snow fall in feet in Rochester, NY.
     
  7. snowplowers

    snowplowers Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    I completely understand that! Well if anyone could help me out for pricing a lot out this way it would be greatly appreciated!
     
  8. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,548

    Where... location.... Midwest northeast, etc
     
  9. snowplowers

    snowplowers Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    The lot is located in the Midwest area. I plan on using either a skidsteer or loader.
     
  10. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,548

    Skid-10fter and pickup/salter. 3 hours, min @ 150 pet hour each.
     
  11. BUFF

    BUFF PlowSite Fanatic
    from FR NoCo
    Messages: 7,315

    Dam........ prices like that you'd never retire.......
     
  12. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,046

    2 12-20ft pushers on a 4.6 acre lot? LOL
     
  13. BUFF

    BUFF PlowSite Fanatic
    from FR NoCo
    Messages: 7,315

    In City Tow land that's how they roll......
     
  14. snowplowers

    snowplowers Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    I would imagine you would be at least $500 for 1-3", $650 for 3-6", and $825 for around 6-8". Does this seem low? I don't understand how company's can rent loaders for about $10,000-15,000 for the winter and make money. Also does $400 for treated salt sound about right for salting?
     
  15. JMHConstruction

    JMHConstruction PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,080

    The subs out here make more than that...

    Where in the Midwest are you? That can span many states, different weather, and differences in pricing.
     
  16. snowplowers

    snowplowers Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    Basically on the edge of Indiana and illinois...
     
  17. 86 CJ

    86 CJ Senior Member
    from MD
    Messages: 285

    In our area I would be estimating this lot in hourly rates per what type of equipment you are running. The same thing goes with Liquid and Dry product Ice management. You can estimate how much you might use, but its really going to depend on the storm and how long your guys are out there. I never do jobs like this per Push. I would recommend a Skid/Cat with a good size bucket, maybe 2 trucks with 8-10' blades and a good sidewalk crew. Don't forget to put a price in there for snow removal/hauling, unless you dump out back in some grass areas in a huge storm, there does not look like a ton of areas to put snow.
     
    Last edited: Aug 1, 2016
  18. transbluefm

    transbluefm Junior Member
    Messages: 2

    snow pricing.

    I would be at $1130 for 1-3 inches.

    When you price your seasonal use a 10 year and 100 year average. Then anticipate how many times you would need to plow. If the seasonal average is lets say 72 inches. Maybe you plow 19-22 times and salt 26 times with maybe 8 partial deicing in there. That may give you a good rate.
     
  19. transbluefm

    transbluefm Junior Member
    Messages: 2

    I believe your leaving money on the table.
     
  20. HadiCoop

    HadiCoop Member
    Messages: 82

    I just left my contact info with a few small commercial lots today and one of them being only around 6000sqft. Not sure if they want salt & just unsure of the details overall as I'm still waiting for a phone call from them. But I'd like to have a rough idea on what you guys think this should cost. There's about 4-5 parking spaces and a 40'-50' laneway to be cleared along with a bit of a front porch. I'm thinking it shouldn't take any more than 20-30mins per plow.
    This is a small commercial lot (cell phone accessories) and it would be nice to have.

    Also going to be talking with my dentist next Saturday which is another very small lot, maybe only 2-3 parking a spaces, but it doesn't look likes there's anywhere to put the snow. But that's something I'll find out.

    Then there's an auto parts store that is still waiting for pavement & sod to be put down as it's a new plaza. This one has about 10 parking spaces down the side of the building and a few more out back. Maybe 10,000sqft of Plowing. My nieghbor works there and was there when I was talking to the owner. Said I had the best lawn on the block so I'm hoping I'll at least get the lawn maintenance job. Would be nice to get both though. Do you guys that do lawn maintenance put together a package deal for snow/grass? I hope this is posted in the correct spot, if not maybe somebody can move it for me