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how to pay help?

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by rmartin, Jan 29, 2004.

  1. rmartin

    rmartin Member
    from mass
    Messages: 68

    I have a driver that assists me in snowplowing. My driver plows 2 of my parking lots along with shoveling a couple small sidewalks. My question is how do i pay? If i pay by the hour it is not really worth it for him to come out since it only takes maybe a total of 1.5 hours to complete. Except for the storms like yesterday where I had to go back 2 times. Then I figured i'd split the profits 50/50 for the 2 lots but i'm not sure about that either. One thing i did do was I gave my driver all of my residential driveways to plow so there is a little money, but i need to make it profitable for him as well as me.
  2. Plow Meister

    Plow Meister PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,174

    If he is driving your truck than he shouldn't make more than $20.00 an hour. This would even be more than if he was just a snow grunt (shoveler). If the total time you two go out is only 1.5 hours than ask yourself "Is it really worth it to have 2 trucks out at once for such little work?" I would throw him $50.00 and call it a day.
  3. badranman

    badranman Senior Member
    Messages: 265

    I agree with the meister, why do you have 2 trucks? If you do need 2 then you also must make it worth his while. There should be a minimum amount that you pay him. I agree with the $50.00.
  4. Robhollar

    Robhollar Senior Member
    Messages: 766

    Its easy, put yourself in his shoes, now what do you think is fair? And the next time i would fig this all out up front...Rob
  5. JMR

    JMR Senior Member
    Messages: 567

    Here is the formula I use for paying drivers & subs. Driver, MY truck, makes 20% of what truck makes per hour. My 80% covers fuel, maintenance, insurance, etc, and profit. Sub with truck is paid 45% of what is billed per hour. Sub pays all his own expenses. My 55% pays GL, billing and collecting expenses, etc, and profit. Hand crews(shoveler & blower) get 80% of whats billed. Our hand crews are billed as a separate line item. My 20% covers GL, billing, etc., and profit. Hand crew is basically a wash. Right or wrong this is how I have done it for years and it works for me. payup payup
  6. rmartin

    rmartin Member
    from mass
    Messages: 68

    the reason i have 2 trucks is because i spend most of my time doing a pretty large mall parking lot as a sub. I picked up 6 other small lots this year. I find it easier to have someone else take 2 of them that are out of my way. therefore i can take care of 4 plus take in pretty good money as a sub.. My other person uses his own truck.