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How to determine accumulation for billing purposes?

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself to the Community' started by godjwood, Dec 5, 2009.

  1. godjwood

    godjwood Member
    from ri
    Messages: 31

    Hi,

    I am plowing for the first time, possibly tonight!

    I have 14 accounts lined up so far, and I broke the prices down into increments (2.6, 6.1-9, 9.1-12, 12+)

    Just wondering your methods of charging the customers. I would assume of course you will have to lean in the customers favor, but I don't think it is practical or makes sense to get out a ruler at each driveway. What is your method in determining snowfall accumulation for billing purposes? Thanks.
     
  2. Longae29

    Longae29 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,953

    Use a ruler at a couple properties, and common sense, dont screw your customers, dont screw yourself.
     
  3. Matson Snow

    Matson Snow PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,985

    I'm with Longae...Break out the trusty ruler, only takes a second to measure.
     
  4. ScottPA

    ScottPA Senior Member
    from PA
    Messages: 170

    Am I the only one here who uses one of these?

    micrometer-001.jpg
     
  5. WIPensFan

    WIPensFan PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,496

    Ruler or news cast. I always rule in favor of me! payup
     
  6. cubicinches

    cubicinches PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,412

    Tough to measure depth with one of those, but I guess if you've gotta know if its 6" or 6.1", you'd better have something pretty accurate.
     
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2009
  7. ScottPA

    ScottPA Senior Member
    from PA
    Messages: 170

    Yep, Wouldn't want to plow out a customer if the trigger depth was off by 1/10th of an inch.
     
  8. cubicinches

    cubicinches PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,412

    What do you do as far as billing when there's 6.08 inches of snow??
     
  9. ScottPA

    ScottPA Senior Member
    from PA
    Messages: 170

    I get out my ole' trusty calculator or course!
    The key is so noone tries to steal it. Expensive peice of technology!

    old-calculator_183.jpg
     
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2009
  10. ScnicExcellence

    ScnicExcellence Senior Member
    Messages: 352

    nice calculator.

    I myself just measure it, if it is around 6 inches then they get charged for the 6 inch rule.

    I just tell them that it is better for me to charge the 1.5 X then the 3 times at 2 inches rule. I think they would rather have a bill for $50 rather than $105 for the 6 inches.
     
  11. godjwood

    godjwood Member
    from ri
    Messages: 31

    thanks for the help.

    I am just planning out my route for tonight.. and it says it will take 3 hrs to drive between 13 residential driveways. How much time should i plan on at each driveway? 20 mins? how long does an average driveway take?
     
  12. ScottPA

    ScottPA Senior Member
    from PA
    Messages: 170

    3 hours just driving? And that time is probably in ideal weather...And time would depend on the driveway..which only you would know what they look like.
     
  13. godjwood

    godjwood Member
    from ri
    Messages: 31

    well, that is why i am asking for an average time to expect. the driveways are nothing ridiculous, they would all be in the "average" range plus or minus, meaning about 20 ft driveways and 10 ft walks.
     
  14. ScottPA

    ScottPA Senior Member
    from PA
    Messages: 170

    How does one get 13 accounts...and not know how long it would take to plow them?
    Iv'e been advertising like hell and don't have that many.
     
  15. godjwood

    godjwood Member
    from ri
    Messages: 31

    internet, and existing customer base of 300 customers.

    how long does your average driveway take?
     
  16. ScottPA

    ScottPA Senior Member
    from PA
    Messages: 170

    I can do mine in 20 minutes if I really beat my truck up.
     
  17. cubicinches

    cubicinches PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,412

    A 20 ft driveway takes me about two minutes... maybe. No shoveling though.

    And no stopping to measure the snow either.
     
  18. godjwood

    godjwood Member
    from ri
    Messages: 31

    what is the usual strategy? back drag from the garage doors, then back in and push the snow out?
     
  19. JMS

    JMS Member
    Messages: 97

    Back drag to the road or almost the end of drive way then push it onto the lawn and away you go, if you turn around your wasting time. you should be able to get a double wide drive done in 5 min or less.
     
  20. cubicinches

    cubicinches PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,412

    I like to plow going into the drive with the blade angled to the lawn side, pick the blade up just before the doors, straighten it out, backdrag from the door back down the drive while angling backward towards the grass, do the other side of the drive the same way. Clean up anything left at the end... then see ya! Takes some practice to not leave a mess in front of the door, but it keeps you from driving on the snow and packing it down and you don't have to turn around to back in.