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how to charge for salting

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by m3klee, Dec 9, 2010.

  1. m3klee

    m3klee Member
    Messages: 62

    i just bought a tailgate salter for this year and am not sure how to charge for it. i have 2 small parking lots that will need it, about 40 x 50' along with a few driveways with some hills that can get slick that the people would like salted. is there a kind of base price that people charge for doing this?
  2. show-n-go

    show-n-go Senior Member
    Messages: 776

    I use bagged salt, the way i do is tripple the cost of salt. So if you pay 4 bucks a bag charge $12 bucks a bag spread.
  3. shott8283

    shott8283 Senior Member
    Messages: 258

    or charge by lb applied. 60 lb bag of salt is 5 bucks. .12 a lb - then mark up from that.

    i dunno - i dont salt so i have no idea.
  4. doo-man

    doo-man Senior Member
    Messages: 387

    I charge by the pound applied. Have two trucks with tailgate spreaders and we have already applied 7500#'s so far this season!! $$$$$
  5. cold_and_tired

    cold_and_tired PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,246

    I put a "ruler" inside my spreader. It's attached to one of the walls. I then put in one 50 lb bag and marked it on the scale, put in another one and marked it, etc. I did this until the spreader was full. When I spread a site, I just note the level before and after and I can figure out roughly how many pounds I put down.

    Like show-n-go, tripling you cost is about right as to what to charge.
  6. show-n-go

    show-n-go Senior Member
    Messages: 776

    Thats a great idea. last year i would have to guess the first couple of accounts since we filled the spreader at the shop, then after that i would put in 3-5 bags at a time.
  7. m3klee

    m3klee Member
    Messages: 62

    thanks guys, that ruler idea is great, im gonna do that tomorrow and thanks for the pricing idea too
  8. diesellandscape

    diesellandscape Member
    Messages: 79

    Cost Per plow .004xsq ft. Salts about the same.
    Larger Lots go for less. 170-190/acre ps
  9. Wayne Volz

    Wayne Volz Senior Member
    Messages: 694

    Know your cost

    Do you know your costs for the truck, spreader and labor per application? After understanding that, then you can add material cost.

    We charge .48 per pound and add a truck, spreader and labor charge of $75.00. That's how we do it. I am not suggesting that you charge what we charge or what anyone else charges. I suggest that you simply know your cost and then sell your services for what the market will bear plus some.
  10. What about like my area Wayne, I'm a small timer and might drive 5 miles to do one job for a little ol lady living up a STEEP cement driveway. Maybe I only have to run there and there only just to salt.
    Time myself to the job and dbl. it (round trip), applying the labor fee + product fee ? Or add in a truck fee fee too ?
  11. Also,,,the triple the purchase price idea for de-icer. I'm already paying $11.75 + 7% tax for 50 lbs. of blended "blue salt" (called Professional Ice Melt) I can't buy bulk or store it etc. This is the lowest retail price in my area...I've looked in two counties.

    The push spreader is getting old fast on these steep driveways. I think I'm getting the driveways the others won't take !! Steep and slick !! Good places for a Willys Jeep, not a 3/4 ton truck.

    So,,since my cost is already retail, how can I triple that and still get work ?
    I realize I need to buy bagged product by the pallet. But, it's a little late in the game for that now.
  12. Wayne Volz

    Wayne Volz Senior Member
    Messages: 694

    Pallet pricing is still available

    Seems you may be in a market where you are better off drinking coffee and hot chocolate when it snows and leave the truck, plow and spreader in the barn if it is really that bad. I am not suggesting it is or it isn't, but if you are going to do it for free, why do it at all?
  13. kb9snp

    kb9snp Junior Member
    Messages: 8

    There's a place in Cinci that has an ad on Craigslist. They are selling bagged rock salt. can you spread that? You can take your truck, go to Cinci, get a pallet loaded in your bed for $213.15 plus tax, that'll give you 49 bags at $4.35 plus tax per bag. If you have a trailer, you can get more in one trip. Louisville is probably about the same distance.

    Last edited: Dec 21, 2010
  14. ctbman

    ctbman Member
    Messages: 76

    How much for salting

    In milwaukee we charge .35 per# for rock salt we have three trucks with tailgate spreaders and have put down over 10 pallets of salt so far and only plowed 2 measureable snows. I estimate a 2 lane rd at about 2# of salt for each foot of road is a good ball park to figure out how much salt you will need. Good luck
  15. CGM Inc.

    CGM Inc. PlowSite Veteran
    from Ontario
    Messages: 3,589

    Ice Melter and rock salt are 2 very different products! That's why you see the difference in price. Unless your clients ask specifically for ice melter I wouldn't use it. Switch to rock salt and make money.
  16. MrSnow

    MrSnow Junior Member
    from Indiana
    Messages: 23

    I totally agree here. Unless your customers specifically request Ice Melt, then just spread the rock salt and make a little money!

    Meisner Snow Relocation Specialists, North Central Indiana
    Ice and Snow Management Services since 1998!
  17. jpickett

    jpickett Junior Member
    from ky
    Messages: 23

    Beastmaster. Caudill Seed in Louisville KY is where a large portion of locals get their bagged rock salt and ice melters. I think current price per bag if you buy 18 pallets is 4.15 any thing under 9 pallets is 4.40 per bag. Your best bet may be to find a local lawn service and see if you can get in on a salt buy with them. I know I let other smaller lawn services get in on my pre season salt buying. Alot of times they will only need 1/2 to 1 pallet. Just a thought.