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How much would you bid this at Seasonal NW OH

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by wiseguyslawn, Nov 13, 2014.

  1. wiseguyslawn

    wiseguyslawn Senior Member
    Messages: 116

    Company is looking to sub this out to me. Just looking for some other opinions on what you would push this for the season. No salt but walks have to be done. Thanks for any input.

    Side note: How are some you guys measuring square footage with satellite images like these. Thanks again

    snow bid.jpg
     
  2. Buswell Forest

    Buswell Forest PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,668

  3. wiseguyslawn

    wiseguyslawn Senior Member
    Messages: 116

    awesome site just found it.

    lot is 160,000 sq ft. thanks
     
  4. Sawboy

    Sawboy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,591

    Lets start by you telling us what you think it's worth.
     
  5. Buswell Forest

    Buswell Forest PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,668

    Out of my depth on pricing. But looks like a good spot for two skids with 10' boxes and a truck with a V plow w/ wings.
     
  6. wiseguyslawn

    wiseguyslawn Senior Member
    Messages: 116

    I plan to put a skid with 10' box and 2 trucks with 8'6 v plows on site
     
  7. Buswell Forest

    Buswell Forest PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,668

    That should do the trick. Figure maybe 4, 4.5 hours without sidewalks?
    Get wings for the V plows if you don't have them.
     
  8. wiseguyslawn

    wiseguyslawn Senior Member
    Messages: 116

    Management company company offered me I feel a low number, especially the winter they are calling for. Just looking for a ballpark number some of you guys would have to have to do it to see if I'm not out of line.

    Yes I was thinking right around 3.5-4 hours
     
  9. wiseguyslawn

    wiseguyslawn Senior Member
    Messages: 116

    Possibly a little less depending how quick we can get the walks done
     
  10. Sawboy

    Sawboy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,591

    I'd say $200/push.
     
  11. Buswell Forest

    Buswell Forest PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,668

    Wild guess, $700 a push?
     
  12. NorthernSvc's

    NorthernSvc's Senior Member
    Messages: 766

  13. JustJeff

    JustJeff 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,062

    200.00 for a three and a half to four hour push??? Are you serious?
     
  14. PLOWTRUCK

    PLOWTRUCK Senior Member
    Messages: 125

    Looks like you average 33-34 inches of snow per year. With that much snow I would be at 10-13k for the season including walks. No salt. 1 machine and 1 truck will be plenty. How many plowable events do you have per season?
     
  15. Sawboy

    Sawboy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,591

    Dammit! $175

    Not at all. But I'm tired of doing other peoples work. Let's see HIS number first, instead of just having people do the bid for him.
     
  16. Maclawnco

    Maclawnco Senior Member
    from OH
    Messages: 628

    Less than 4 acres and there are guesses of 7,8, 12 man hours to plow this? Amazing
     
  17. Rc2505

    Rc2505 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,245

    I would be at 8 to 10 grand a year no salt. I would be in and out in less than 2 man hours per push with a 2 inch trigger. I would have a loader with 12 foot pusher and 1 truck with a 9.2 V plow.
     
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2014
  18. wiseguyslawn

    wiseguyslawn Senior Member
    Messages: 116

    we average 10-12 events per year typically. Last year was double that. The 7-8 man hours I was estimating was not a simple 2in. push. I was thinking the more 6-8 in. snowfall that we almost got every storm last year just to be covered.

    I was in the 8-9k range.

    Management company offered 5600
     
  19. John_DeereGreen

    John_DeereGreen PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,902

    So we're talking 3.8 acres total. Keep this in mind for the next section...
    Average production rates for those pieces of equipment: Skid/10 foot box, 2 acres per hour, truck with v plow 1 acre per hour. So you should be done with that lot in like 45 minutes.
    And 2 skid steers with 10 foot boxes and a truck? Why would anyone need that much iron there? Maybe if he were somewhere that it snowed 4 inches an hour every time it started snowing.

    For me, I'd put a truck in there with a v plow and wings, and bid it for 4 hours. I'd have a skid move through if needed for better stacking on a larger storm. There's no reason a truck can't handle this alone.

    I don't know how some of you guys have any work, for what you've got to charge for the amount of equipment you want to use. We have a 12 acre property set up very similar to that and until we bought a loader last year had no problem with 2 skids and a truck no matter how it snowed. Now the loader does 80% and the truck does 20% Freed 2 skids up for other sites.
     
  20. wiseguyslawn

    wiseguyslawn Senior Member
    Messages: 116

    Thanks for your input and you do make some good points. I think pushing the lot in 45 min. with walks is a bit shy but some guys are faster than others and more experienced.

    Was just trying to get a feel on how close the pricing was from the management company.

    Do you think 5600 is fair for season being pushed every 2" trigger.

    Thanks again