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How much weight should I add to my rear end, and where should I put it?

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself to the Community' started by 90pioneer, Oct 29, 2011.

  1. 90pioneer

    90pioneer Junior Member
    Messages: 14

    My first time plowing this year. I'm using a 97 F250HD, extended cab long bed with a 460. I just bought a Boss Power V plow that weights about 900lbs.

    How much weight should I put in the bed, and where should it be placed?
     
  2. BossPlow2010

    BossPlow2010 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,032

    You don't need any. If you'd like put 500 lbs near the tailgate and that'll help a little.
    But you don't need ballast!
     
  3. 7_below

    7_below Senior Member
    Messages: 245

    I always put about 8 gravel bags right over the rear axle. Each bag is 75#. Make sure there sucure or they'll slide to the front of the bed.
     
  4. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    A good rule of thumb is ballast weight should equal plow weight. Get it as far back as possible, right up to the tailgate. Secure it so if you are in an accident the weight doesn't come through the back window.
     
  5. RLM

    RLM PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,270

    As far back to the rear as possible, every bit helps, as was said secure it, or it will work it's way forward.
     
  6. DodgeBlizzard

    DodgeBlizzard Senior Member
    Messages: 526

    How much weight should I add to my rear end, and where should I put it?
    That's something you will never hear the wife say. haha
     
  7. 90pioneer

    90pioneer Junior Member
    Messages: 14

    The truck actually has airbags in the rear. If I put 8 or 900 pounds of sand back there should I leave the airbags deflated?
     
  8. REAPER

    REAPER 2000 Club Member
    from 60050
    Messages: 2,228

    If the truck has slots in the bed then get a 2x10 and install in last slots near tail gate. Then go and get 6 or 7 of those bags/tubes of sand that weigh 70/75lbs. Put behind the 2x10 near tailgate.

    The weight will help with traction and counter weight for front. If you get stuck you also have sand to help you get out. Leave air bags at or around 50psi.
     
  9. ChickenKing

    ChickenKing Member
    Messages: 40

    I go to Home Depot and grab 8 or 10 of the 60lb bags of sand and throw them above the rear axle. After the season is over I return them.....
     
  10. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    I really hope you're kidding.
     
    Last edited: Oct 31, 2011
    finh2o likes this.
  11. ChickenKing

    ChickenKing Member
    Messages: 40

    Of course I am.....
     
  12. Banksy

    Banksy PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,113

    :dizzy:

    The difference between ballast and no ballast is huge. Your front end will thank you for 700#'s against the tailgate.
     
  13. dfd9

    dfd9 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,475

    Wouldn't that be counterweight?

    I'm surprised it took someone so long to make a comment like this. :drinkup:
     
  14. ChickenKing

    ChickenKing Member
    Messages: 40

    Boss website recommends you add 475 lbs. of ballast in the rear. Do it and you will be happy you did.

    It's on the Boss website "Plow Selector", I assumed you had a 8'2" Power-V blade.
     
  15. superdog1

    superdog1 Senior Member
    Messages: 256

    What if you are running a 1 ton dually dump truck? Logic says the steel dump bed weighs more than the plow, but then again, the truck was designed for that bed to be there, just like a pickup was designed to have it's bed back there. I would say that the dump needs ballast too?
     
  16. JCByrd24

    JCByrd24 Senior Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 232

    Calling it ballast or counterweight, the idea is the same, weight behind the rear axle takes weight off the front axle and places it back on the rear. The benefits are obvious, rear axle can handle more weight, lots of expensive wear items in the front, more traction in the rear. Also, the plow manufactures do you the service of how much ballast you need to not exceed your front AWR.

    Now, it should be obvious why a 1 ton with a dumb body is different than a pickup with a bed. First, different FAWR, second, plow makes much less impact on rear traction with all the weight of a dump bed.

    Trucks (not ones with dump bodies) are already some of the worst handling vehicles in the snow due to bad weight distribution, add a plow without ballast and they are down right dangerous. If you don't think so, drive around in 2wd on snowy roads and see how much your spinning tires. Now imagine you slam on the brakes and have not rear traction, rear end is passing the front in a hurry.
     
  17. DodgeBlizzard

    DodgeBlizzard Senior Member
    Messages: 526

    I'm tired of putting sandbags in the back. My new counterweight (ballast) will be known as the Ebling backplow. Yeah buddy.
     
  18. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    When you drop the Ebling, all the weight is off the truck. And that's when you'll need the weight the most.
     
  19. dfd9

    dfd9 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,475

    Very intelligent plower right here.

    Do you mean drop as in for plowing? Or drop as in removing the plow off the truck?

    If you mean the first, you are wrong.

    It isn't like pull plows are new on the market. If the above statement was true, then pull plows wouldn't have stayed in production for over 50 years.
     
  20. superdog1

    superdog1 Senior Member
    Messages: 256

    I'm not sure I follow you? When that back plow is dropped to the ground, the ground itself is then supporting the weight of the plow and it becomes another thing that has to be moved by the vehicle and the same amount of weight is then over the back axles as if the plow was not there? Maybe I am missing something?:confused: