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How Big an Area can you Plow with a Truck

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by Four Seasons, Nov 20, 2010.

  1. Four Seasons

    Four Seasons Senior Member
    Messages: 157

    At what point do you need a loader to push a foot of snow in a reasonable amount of time? vs. a 1 ton 8.5 V plow
     
  2. CGM Inc.

    CGM Inc. PlowSite Veteran
    from Ontario
    Messages: 3,590

    on a foot! very, very soon!
    We usually don't wait for a foot to accumulate b4 we plow but I wouldn't want to do more then 1/2 acre with a pickup and a foot of snow.
     
  3. Four Seasons

    Four Seasons Senior Member
    Messages: 157

    ok, thats good to know. I have to bid first commercial. Its 3 acres. Im going to price in a loader rental.
     
  4. nekos

    nekos Senior Member
    Messages: 586

    A 3 acre lot is not that big at all. A truck can easily handle something like that. There may be other reasons to put a small loader out there instead of a truck though.
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2010
  5. cretebaby

    cretebaby PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,162

    How much time do you have?
     
  6. hydro_37

    hydro_37 PlowSite Veteran
    from iowa
    Messages: 3,790

    why wait till there is a foot of snow?
     
  7. Four Seasons

    Four Seasons Senior Member
    Messages: 157


    kinda the same principal both ways. So both.

    Time? I dont know. 2 hours...
     
  8. RLM

    RLM PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,270

    We picked up a 3 acre lot 2 seasons ago, up till then it was done with trucks. We have only used a loader. So it CAN be done, it will just take awhile. Don't let a foot get accumulated would be my advise. Get a set of pro wings, even on a V it will save you a ton of time. If you get a foot on it...better bring a lunch & thermos of coffee.
     
  9. Four Seasons

    Four Seasons Senior Member
    Messages: 157

    I think a loader on site would be in order as the site is fenced off all the way around and the snow would get pushed/loaded through 1 or 2 large gates
     
  10. Rc2505

    Rc2505 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,245

    My cut off point for doing lots with just trucks is 3.5 to 4 acres. Of course there are limititations on that, but throw a couple trucks at a 4 acre lot and you can have it cleared in 2 hours. Less than that with a bigger single axel truck, and a 3/4 or 1 ton with a v-plow. You just have to know how to divide up the lot, and push with the storm, not wait till it's all fallen.
     
  11. REAPER

    REAPER 2000 Club Member
    from 60050
    Messages: 2,228

    Trick question.

    It is not always how much pavement there is but location and layout of said pavement.

    I have done 6 and 8 acre lots myself with one pick-up and tailgate salter. I have also done 3 acre lots that I have had to call for a loader.

    Is it wide open?
    Islands every 20 feet?
    Broken up partial lots front,back and sides?
    Side of the building lanes to dock area?
    Small customer parking in front large employee parking in back and a truck turn around on side?

    Every lot has it's own needs and that is what you need to determine for which equipment is needed. :drinkup:
     
  12. PLOWTRUCK

    PLOWTRUCK Senior Member
    Messages: 125

    ^^ look at the question in the last post. I have also done lots that are 5 and 6 acres with trucks only. All lots are different.Depends if you need to stack snow also.
     
  13. RLM

    RLM PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,270

    You didn't say in the original post about relocating through gates. In my estimating, with the market here, you will not get enough $$$ to leave a machine on site for a 3 acre lot. Leave it to someone that has proper equipment in the area or sub it to them. We take our loader to muliple sites. Your looking at $ 2500/mo for rental of a mid sized machine (good luck finding one) & a 3 acre lot will only go for about 6-8K/season.
    If your depending on someone else to bail you out when the heavy snow hits....they'll be busy with the stuff that has their name on it first. We have bailed out both other contractors & clients that had other sites buried in, neither went well, the cotractor never piad us & the client said we hit a curb...we'd never seen the site till it was under 12-18" of snow. I ended up with a damaged pusher for being a "nice guy" leason learned, from now on any "bail outs" sign a waiver, contract & double rate. I could care less if we do them, that said I have other contractors we will help & they recipricate (like last season when we stuck our loader & neededanother one to pull it out). IMO it is better to pass on accounts than get in over your head & give yourself a bad name & loose any future chance of getting them later. I've learned from experience.
     
  14. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    :nod:

    3 acres of road, truck w/blade is better.