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Hours to plow residentials..

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by TSG, Nov 19, 2001.

  1. TSG

    TSG Member
    Messages: 76

    Do you plow residentials at any hour.. 1-2 am? Or do you keep it respectable?
     
  2. PINEISLAND1

    PINEISLAND1 PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 664

    Everyone wants to be done before they go to work!

    You've gotta start somewhere, and the first ones on the route can expect us by 2-3 am on an average morning.

    Its the norm here.
     
  3. plowjockey

    plowjockey PlowSite.com Sponsor
    Messages: 622

    If an account has a special need as to someone sick or a valid reason not to be plowed they should let you know.

    Bruce
     
  4. bubble boy

    bubble boy Member
    Messages: 44

    i aim for overnight-less traffic and less conversation.

    and i always see more guys at night than in the day.
     
  5. CT18fireman

    CT18fireman Banned
    Messages: 2,133

    Unless you live in Toronto and snowblow (then you have 24 hours to get them done) most customers want to get out and go to work. We try to play it according to the schools. This works because most residentials we plow are families. The routes start with sommercial and condos being opened first. Then we go to all the driveways and then come back to clean commercials and sand.

    With overnight snows this means we start plowing about 3am and are are done with residentials about 8-9am. This is of course very variable depending on amounts and time of snowfall. I have had very few complaints on timing in my 8 years of plowing.
     
  6. Deere John

    Deere John Senior Member
    Messages: 410

    Early in the morning keeps the annoyance factor down:

    no school buses, no half-awake commuters, nobody flagging you to wait while they brush off and move cars, few pedestrians (but they do seem to dress in black and jog behind the trucks from time to time), beats garbage day and the dogs are asleep. That said, we can;t do them all in the dark, so breakfast for the one driver who works into the daylight is at the morning rush time. Then back to work.
     
  7. plowjockey

    plowjockey PlowSite.com Sponsor
    Messages: 622

    John, you bring up a very good point. We all need to get in a break from time to time. The scheduling of these breaks can give you a safer operation by being off the streets during peak congested traffic time.
    As you say the man who plows into the daylight hours needs fortification in the form of getting blood back into the legs and food into the system.
    Also it is a very good time to do a visual check of the equipment since it is first light and you may have overlooked a problem that was hidden by the night.

    Bruce
     
  8. CT18fireman

    CT18fireman Banned
    Messages: 2,133

    I try to get my guys that break around 8. After everything has been hit once. Then we go back out to clean and finish. This is the optimum plan. Remember weather does not always cooperate. Important to be flexible.
     
  9. plowjockey

    plowjockey PlowSite.com Sponsor
    Messages: 622

    I agree 100%. Another way to avoid peak rush hour would be to try to route a fairly large but unoccupied lot during that time so even though the driver is still hard at it he is out of harms (and rush hour idiots) way.

    Bruce
     
  10. casey

    casey Banned
    Messages: 180

    Reading these replies re residentials honestly surprises me. I have never had a problem doing res drives during daylight hours on a 6am to 11:30 pm shift.
    I can think of a few reasons for this-
    We service mainy elderly & or SUV driving customers.
    The drives are small & our snowfalls would rarely if ever actually disable customers from getting their car out.
    Our customers are generally year around contracts with whom we have a good working relationship.
    We provide a full sevice cleaning, walks & steps, which I imagine many late night plow & go's do not.
    Perhaps a combination of these factors have allowed us to clear snow during daylight hours.
    In the huge storm we had in 1999 there were a few complaints but they were from snow only, not full season, contracts. Customers seemed generally understanding.
    Larger drives & commercial contracts must, of coarse, be completed before the sun rises
     
  11. thelawnguy

    thelawnguy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,011

    "The drives are small & our snowfalls would rarely if ever actually disable customers from getting their car out."

    Then why should they bother even having it cleared?

    I do the residentials any time, from when its about stopped til theyre done be it 2am or 2pm.
     
  12. OBRYANMAINT

    OBRYANMAINT PlowSite.com Veteran
    from ohio
    Messages: 534

    times vary depending on customers requests but usually between 4 and 6 am at the latest
     
  13. JCurtis

    JCurtis Banned
    Messages: 862

    Time ????

    I have plowed residential for years and never had any complaints about noise.

    I make sure the ehaust system isn't load ( no glass pack mufflers or open headers) Turn the stereo down so the windows don't rattle, my residential truck Does NOT have a back up alarm....

    So the onlt real noise is the crunching of the snow under the tires and metal scraping asphalt ( and if you drop the plow gentlyeven thats not too bad.)

    Of course a Polyuretehane edge would be even quieter...

    Gotta love the modern technology!
     
  14. HandyHaver

    HandyHaver Senior Member
    Messages: 279

    out there 24/7. does not matter what time it is. I also offer full service. We run the blower, shovel, plow with the strobe on, never had a complaint. Had one crazy lady about a half a block from where we were working hanging out her window one night when it was about 5 degrees out yelling at us to go home & do we know what time it is, but my customer told me later she's always doing that, day or night so don't sweat it. (I didn't). If I could control the storm, I would prefer to work from around 9pm to 7-8 in the am. Hell, If I could control the storm, I wouldn't be plowing!!!!

    Mark
     
  15. greenquestlawn

    greenquestlawn Senior Member
    Messages: 157

    Nothing I hate more than plowing during the day. It takes twice as long cause of all the "really really bad drivers".

    I plow whenever I get there. They are mixed in with my comm. accts. So some people get plowed shortly after midnight and some are 2,3,4,5am.

    The good thing though is they are home at this time and if I wake them at least they won't question if I was there or not.:D
     
  16. landscaper3

    landscaper3 Senior Member
    Messages: 309

    We gave up 95% of our residential drives , DONT LIKE RESIDENTIAL were staying all commercial well almost. We maintain 15 driveways average 250' we make a pass no matter what time to get out as emergency's happen so every 4" we clear a pass till the storms end then the FINAL cleanig!
     
  17. Fine Lines Lawn

    Fine Lines Lawn Member
    Messages: 38

    We do all of our plowing overnight starting about 10PM. This of course varies depending on the time of the storm. Fighting the traffic during the day makes it impossible to plow profitably. We've never had a noise complaint.
     
  18. Rob

    Rob PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 306

    I totally agree. Plowing homes at night is the best way to go. Especially for the end of the driveway where you need to pull the truck out into the street. Nothing worse than wasting time waiting for an opening in traffic so you can do your job. I'll plow all night, use my blower up near the garage etc. whatever I need to do and I have never had a complaint about the noise. The only problem I've ever run into at night is the "yahoo's" out in the SUV's running through snow banks etc. Still waiting for the day that one gets stuck and asks me to pull them out.
     
  19. Kent Lawns

    Kent Lawns PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 315

    Snow had a tremendous muffling effect. Absorbs alot of noise energy.
     
  20. GeoffD

    GeoffD PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 2,266

    When we get to it is when we do it, 2 am or 2pm. Thats how we work.

    Geoff