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Hiniker Scoop or V-plow

Discussion in 'Hiniker' started by aboveperfection, Mar 1, 2011.

  1. aboveperfection

    aboveperfection Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    I have been looking at getting a new plow for next season and I am trying to decide between a Hiniker 8' scoop or 8' V-plow. I currently have an older Hiniker 8.5' straight blade that I put wings on. I really like the plow and have had no issues with it but it just not fit the type of plowing I do.

    I have 1 large townhouse complex that I open the streets with and the straight blade is not the right plow for this type of work, the wings help but are not the answer. I use a skid steer with a 9' blade to do the drives and this set up has the Kage system on it that works great. I just need to be more efficient with the streets.

    I also have 2 small to medium parking lots, a small town house and 15 residencial driveways to plow.

    I am curious to hear how the Scoop plow back drags. This is really my main concern. I know a Blizzard plow would be the best choice but my truck would have a hard time with that much weight up front. I have a 2003 Chev 1500HD with Timbrens up front. It carries the 8.5' Hinijer with no problem but with 950 lbs up front I would have to have 800 lbs in balast that is a lot of weight.

    Let me hear your pros and cons of a v-plow and a scoop.

    Thanks!
     
  2. kevlars

    kevlars Senior Member
    Messages: 407

    I just put on a 8.5 Hiniker v-plow, and love it. Hope to use it a couple more times this season. I can't comment on the scoop, though. I like the versatility of the v, but that is just for my use.

    Good luck,
    kevlars
     
  3. NICHOLS LANDSCA

    NICHOLS LANDSCA PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,310

    The only advantage the V has is busting stuff open, the scoop holds more snow.
     
  4. aboveperfection

    aboveperfection Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    But how do they back drag?
     
  5. blee1ash

    blee1ash Senior Member
    Messages: 107

    I'm just thinking that both of those plows sound a little heavy for a 1/2 ton turck. The v should back drag simmilar to your current plow, I've never used a scoop so don't know how well they backdrag.
     
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2011
  6. aboveperfection

    aboveperfection Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    A 1500HD is NOT a 1/2 ton, it is the exact same a a 2500 NON HD from Mid 90's to 2003. The front end capacity is the same. I see a lot of v-plows on those trucks. With the Timbren up fron I should have no issue.

    I realize that a v-plow will back drag the same as my current plow. I guess I should have been a little more clear on the info I wanted... how does a Scoop plow back drag?
     
  7. NICHOLS LANDSCA

    NICHOLS LANDSCA PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,310

    They back drag fine until the cutting edge wears down to nothing. Call me and I'll explain 612-810-8370 Rob
     
  8. blee1ash

    blee1ash Senior Member
    Messages: 107

    Sorry, I read your post too fast and didn't notice the HD. You should be fine with that truck. I've never used a scoop plow but I would think they would backdrag about the same as a straight. Does the dealer have a demo model you can try for a couple hours? It should hook right up to your truck, I know the mount is the same and I'm pretty shure the wiring is also.
     
  9. Outdoor Pros

    Outdoor Pros Member
    Messages: 51

    Bump to get post count up
     
  10. ABES

    ABES PlowSite.com Addict
    from MN
    Messages: 1,322

    Never used a scoop but this last storm I put about 24 consecutive hours on one of our 9.5 Hiniker Poly V plows. I was impressed with the plow its fast, backdrags really nice, like the high clearance trip edge etc.
     
  11. IHI

    IHI Senior Member
    from Iowa
    Messages: 245

    Just thinking out loud here...would you be better off, especially considering the driveway factor, and then budget wise...to just invest in a pull plow? hell, you could even get a smaller Ebling Pull Plow for what a Hinker like your thinking will run and you will have back drag exellence as well as a much larger cutting swath and zero trail off.
     
  12. cole22

    cole22 Senior Member
    Messages: 101

    I have a 9' ploy scoop plow and love it. I have curb guards on it. The plow back drags really nice if the snows light. If it's heavy it takes a couple times but I'm in the process of making a fixed back drag plate. If you have question give me a call 320-212-9552. I recommend Herman's Landscape Supply in Jordan, I knows its kinda of a drive from Rogers but well worth the drive they set you up! And they give you Preseason pricing all year! Tell them Cole from Dassel sent you. I do all my snow plow business there.
    Good luck!
     
  13. aboveperfection

    aboveperfection Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    I will look into the Scoop and contact them down in Jordan.

    Thanks!
     
  14. sd_truck_tech

    sd_truck_tech Inactive
    Messages: 14

    In our experience most of the time we don't need to offset the weight too much as long as you have the timbren kit installed. You can also contact timbren and get some heavier duty springs to go in place of the ones your kit came with if need be.

    Did you ever make a decision is to what you want to do?
     
  15. aboveperfection

    aboveperfection Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    Still have not decided what I am going to do. A scoop would be the ticket for the parking lots and townhouse complexes but for residential a v plow would work better. Both plows weigh about the same and are within 75 lbs of my plow with an back drag blade and wings on it. I got my Timbrens from a buddy who had an older Chev 2500 and I had to modify thm slightly but they fit in and work great. I may have to crank the torsion bars a bit with a heavier plow. I will not worry about that until I get the plow.
     
  16. NICHOLS LANDSCA

    NICHOLS LANDSCA PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,310

    Check the Z height on your truck I am willing to bet it's low. I ended up turning my bars up 3-4 turns just to get the Z height to spec. No timbrens needed really. Call me again and I can explain how to adjust them, or you can do a search on here.
     
  17. cole22

    cole22 Senior Member
    Messages: 101

    Yup I don't need to turn up my torsion bars at all since I have a lift and bigger tires on one of my trucks. But that is what I would do on my other trucks.
     
    Last edited: Mar 10, 2011
  18. fabcraftinc

    fabcraftinc Member
    Messages: 69

    I had a 9 ft scoop on a 2004 2500 chevy HD. The truck handled it well. On heavier wet stuff I would run out of traction/ power. Aside from not being able to get right up to garages because of the scoop, it would back drag no diffrent than a straight blade. Loved the fact that the trip edge was segmented in three pieces. Was awesome in the 2- 3 inch powder snow and in cleaning up. Took a 45 min parking lot with 8ft straightblade and turned it into 30 min max.
     
  19. aboveperfection

    aboveperfection Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    Just an update on this...I bought an 8' Scoop today. I got a new last years model that the company had used for shows and such. I feel I got a good deal on it since they added the snow deflector and curb guards in on the quoted price for "free", labor included. Now I have to sell my plow. So if anyone is interested here it is:

    http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/pts/2623298323.html

    I can't wait to try this scoop plow out!

    Thanks everyone for your input.
    Graig
     
  20. grassmowerman

    grassmowerman Junior Member
    from Indiana
    Messages: 11

    I decided for my application I bought a 9' C plow for my 2000 F-350 diesel. Bought it used and had it installed yesterday by a hiniker dealer.
    I think the flip portion will help me with back dragging drive ways and small parking lots.