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High traffic walks

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by qualitycut, Jan 27, 2009.

  1. qualitycut

    qualitycut PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 24,227

    I do some house on the U of M campus and when I get there the city walks are so packed sown it seems imposable to get to the pavement. Any suggestions also no salt.

    Thanks.
     
  2. ford6.9

    ford6.9 Senior Member
    Messages: 452

    If you have a dingo or something to scrape it but besides that on our town walkways when we show up they are packed down pretty well. Just scape and then we salt them pretty heavy but that's all I can offer sorry I don't have a labor free way of doing it.
     
  3. REAPER

    REAPER 2000 Club Member
    from 60050
    Messages: 2,228


    Hand shovels???
     
  4. CityGuy

    CityGuy PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 16,995

    Ice scraper with a metal edge will usually take up packed snow. doesen't work as good with ice.
     
  5. yard5864

    yard5864 Senior Member
    Messages: 149

    skid bucket- down pressure and it has the sharp edge to get under the packed snow.
     
  6. qualitycut

    qualitycut PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 24,227

    Ya some are 3 inch trigger so it can get pretty packed down and its a PITA.
     
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2009
  7. cretebaby

    cretebaby PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,162

    pretreat?...
     
  8. qualitycut

    qualitycut PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 24,227

    They are cheap a$$ landlords that dont want to pay for any extras.
     
  9. fireball

    fireball PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 536

    1.pretreat and use a bobcat with their ice scraper

    2. use a bobcat with a rotary brush. use a brush with a steel bristle. might take several passes.

    3 use a dethatcher with flail blades. Set the depth on dry payment so that the blades are just touching the concrete. Shovel the remains after several passes. You can use the Lesco renevator and load the seed bin with Urea 46-0-0. You can go to your nearest Lesco/John Deere Landscapes store to rent one to try it out however their blades are solid so you have to be careful.

    4 there is an attachment to a snow blower that just got a patent that will do the job but costs around 1500.00, probably will be on the market soon.
     
  10. kashman

    kashman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,070

    then dont worry its not your problem
     
  11. qualitycut

    qualitycut PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 24,227

    Thats kind of what I was thinking.
     
  12. dirtmandan2

    dirtmandan2 Senior Member
    Messages: 275

    with a 3" trigger and no salt I would say that they probably don't care if it's packed down... It would be cheaper for them to pay you to salt and come more often than to spend all day there trying to scrape it up. My guess is that they don't care...
     
  13. Rc2505

    Rc2505 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,245

    If your just doing this by hand, no equipment, then I would get a flat floor scraper, or a steel flat shovel. Plastic snow shovels won't get down to bare concrete very well.
     
  14. siewertenterpri

    siewertenterpri Junior Member
    Messages: 28

    Just a thought what about a propane torch to soften the hard pack up and use a shovel to remove it?
     
  15. ooxteme

    ooxteme Junior Member
    Messages: 25

    a flame thrower? haha... I like the pretreat idea the best, less physical labor involed
     
  16. siewertenterpri

    siewertenterpri Junior Member
    Messages: 28

    I would prefer salt but if they don't want to pay for salt they wont pay for pretreatment
     
  17. sven1277

    sven1277 Senior Member
    Messages: 480

    I second the idea of using a mini skid with a bucket. By varying the angle and dp you should be able to get down to the pavement pretty well.
     
  18. CJSLAWNSERVICE

    CJSLAWNSERVICE Senior Member
    Messages: 155

    a landlord for a frat house won't pay for all this heavy equipment like the guy has been saying...... shovel or nothing...unless hes willing to pay
     
  19. Runner

    Runner Senior Member
    Messages: 957

    LOL! I was going to say,...if they aren't going o pay for a bag of salt, I don't think they're going to pay for a skid loader. Another thing to consider it this...If they aren't willing to pay, it PROBably isn't worth your time. Don't get caught up in hard scraping, and putting extra time into it, just because of the cheap minded landlord that doesn't care.Don't think for a MINUTE that he isn't making bucks off that place for their rent. If he wants that liability of someone being able to fall, that is his problem. Personally, I wouldn't be TOUCHing this place, because don't think for a New York MINUTE that YOU won't be named in a lawsuit, too. Afterall, they hired YOU to maintain it.
     
  20. tgumby4

    tgumby4 Junior Member
    Messages: 17

    I do some apartments around West Virginia University and had the same problems. Most of my foot traffic happens after midnight. I just started clearing the most with shovels then using limestone chips as a traction aid on the hard packed areas. I do use some salt also. Makes a little mess but most of the foot is just passing through not entering the apartments.