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Henry Margusity Winter outlook 2009-2010

Discussion in 'Weather' started by tls22, Oct 5, 2009.

  1. tls22

    tls22 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,263

    http://www.accuweather.com/mt-news-...ives/2009/10/the_20092010_winter_forecast.asp

    I would take this fwiw.....see how he does at the end of the year

    His total snow for the season for selected citys in the US. The first number is avg.....the 2nd number is what he expects

    City Avg Snowfall 09-10 Winter
    BIRMINGHAM C.O.,AL 2 2
    BIRMINGHAM AP,AL 2 2
    HUNTSVILLE, AL 3 3
    MOBILE, AL 1 1
    MONTGOMERY, AL 0 0
    FLAGSTAFF, AZ 101 50
    PHOENIX, AZ 0 0
    TUCSON, AZ 1 1
    WINSLOW, AZ 11 5
    YUMA, AZ 0 0
    FORT SMITH, AR 6 3
    LITTLE ROCK, AR 5 3
    NORTH LITTLE ROCK, AR 7 3
    BAKERSFIELD, CA 0 0
    BISHOP, CA 8 4
    BLUE CANYON, CA 241 120
    EUREKA, CA. 0 0
    FRESNO, CA 0 0
    LONG BEACH, CA 0 0
    LOS ANGELES AP, CA 0 0
    LOS ANGELES C.O., CA 0 0
    MOUNT SHASTA, CA 105 52
    REDDING, CA 3 2
    SACRAMENTO, CA 0 0
    SAN DIEGO, CA 0 0
    SAN FRANCISCO AP, CA 0 0
    SAN FRANCISCO C.O., CA 0 0
    SANTA BARBARA, CA 0 0
    SANTA MARIA, CA 0 0
    STOCKTON, CA 0 0
    ALAMOSA, CO 34 17
    COLORADO SPRINGS, CO 43 21
    DENVER, CO 60 60
    GRAND JUNCTION, CO 25 13
    PUEBLO, CO 33 17
    BRIDGEPORT, CT 25 37
    HARTFORD, CT 47 71
    WILMINGTON, DE 20 31
    WASHINGTON DULLES AP, D.C. 23 41
    WASHINGTON NAT'L AP, D.C. 17 30
    FLORIDA 0 0
    ATHENS, GA 2 2
    ATLANTA, GA 2 2
    AUGUSTA,GA 1 1
    COLUMBUS, GA 1 1
    MACON, GA 1 1
    SAVANNAH, GA 0 0
    BOISE, ID 21 21
    LEWISTON, ID 16 16
    POCATELLO, ID 43 43
    CAIRO,IL 10 12
    CHICAGO,IL 38 46
    MOLINE, IL 30 36
    PEORIA, IL 25 30
    ROCKFORD, IL 35 42
    SPRINGFIELD, IL 24 28
    EVANSVILLE, IN 14 16
    FORT WAYNE, IN 33 39
    INDIANAPOLIS, IN 23 27
    SOUTH BEND, IN 71 86
    DES MOINES, IA 33 33
    DUBUQUE,IA 44 44
    SIOUX CITY, IA 32 32
    WATERLOO, IA 32 32
    CONCORDIA, KS 22 22
    DODGE CITY, KS 20 20
    GOODLAND, KS 38 38
    TOPEKA, KS 21 25
    WICHITA, KS 16 19
    GREATER CINCINNATI AP 23 28
    JACKSON, KY 21 25
    LEXINGTON, KY 16 19
    LOUISVILLE, KY 16 19
    PADUCAH KY 11 13
    BATON ROUGE, LA 0 0
    LAKE CHARLES, LA 0 0
    NEW ORLEANS, LA 0 0
    SHREVEPORT, LA 2 1
    CARIBOU, ME 110 110
    PORTLAND, ME 71 71
    BALTIMORE, MD 21 42
    BLUE HILL, MA 59 89
    BOSTON, MA 41 61
    WORCESTER, MA 68 102
    ALPENA, MI 85 85
    DETROIT, MI 41 41
    FLINT, MI 45 45
    GRAND RAPIDS, MI 72 72
    HOUGHTON LAKE, MI 75 75
    LANSING, MI 49 49
    MARQUETTE, MI 129 129
    MUSKEGON, MI 97 97
    SAULT STE. MARIE, MI 116 116
    DULUTH, MN 78 78
    INTERNATIONAL FALLS, MN 64 64
    MINNEAPOLIS-ST.PAUL, MN 50 50
    ROCHESTER, MN 49 49
    SAINT CLOUD, MN 45 45
    JACKSON, MS 1 1
    MERIDIAN, MS 1 1
    TUPELO, MS 3 1
    COLUMBIA, MO 23 23
    KANSAS CITY, MO 20 20
    ST. LOUIS, MO 20 20
    SPRINGFIELD, MO 17 17
    BILLINGS, MT 57 57
    GLASGOW, MT 27 27
    GREAT FALLS, MT 59 59
    HELENA, MT 48 48
    KALISPELL, MT 64 64
    MISSOULA, MT 46 46
    GRAND ISLAND, NE 31 31
    LINCOLN, NE 27 27
    NORFOLK, NE 31 31
    NORTH PLATTE, NE 30 30
    OMAHA EPPLEY AP, NE 30 30
    OMAHA (NORTH), NE 31 31
    SCOTTSBLUFF, NE 41 41
    VALENTINE, NE 33 16
    ELKO, NV 38 19
    ELY, NV 49 24
    LAS VEGAS, NV 1 1
    RENO, NV 25 12
    WINNEMUCCA, NV 24 12
    CONCORD, NH 63 101
    ATLANTIC CITY AP, NJ 16 32
    NEWARK, NJ 27 54
    ALBUQUERQUE, NM 11 6
    CLAYTON, NM 22 11
    ROSWELL, NM 11 6
    ALBANY, NY 63 95
    BINGHAMTON, NY 82 124
    BUFFALO, NY 91 128
    ISLIP, NY 21 41
    NEW YORK C.PARK, NY 28 51
    NEW YORK (JFK AP), NY 23 41
    NEW YORK (LAGUARDIA AP), NY 25 46
    ROCHESTER, NY 90 162
    SYRACUSE, NY 114 205
    ASHEVILLE, NC 16 25
    CAPE HATTERAS, NC 2 2
    CHARLOTTE, NC 6 9
    GREENSBORO-WNSTN-SALM-HGHPT,NC 9 17
    RALEIGH, NC 7 14
    WILMINGTON, NC 2 2
    BISMARCK, ND 42 42
    FARGO, ND 38 38
    WILLISTON, ND 38 38
    AKRON, OH 48 81
    CLEVELAND, OH 55 94
    COLUMBUS, OH 28 47
    DAYTON, OH 28 47
    MANSFIELD, OH 42 71
    TOLEDO, OH 37 63
    YOUNGSTOWN, OH 56 96
    OKLAHOMA CITY, OK 9 5
    TULSA, OK 9 5
    ASTORIA, OR 5 5
    BURNS,OR 43 43
    EUGENE, OR 7 7
    MEDFORD, OR 7 7
    PENDLETON, OR 18 18
    PORTLAND, OR 7 7
    SALEM, OR 7 7
    SEXTON SUMMIT, OR 98 98
    ALLENTOWN, PA 31 53
    ERIE, PA. 86 111
    HARRISBURG, PA 34 51
    MIDDLETOWN/HARRISBURG INTL APT 34 51
    PHILADELPHIA, PA 21 40
    PITTSBURGH, PA 43 65
    AVOCA, PA 47 70
    ALTOONA, PA 40 60
    STATE COLLEGE, PA 45 68
    WILLIAMSPORT, PA 41 62
    PROVIDENCE, RI 36 53
    CHARLESTON AP,SC 1 0
    COLUMBIA, SC 2 4
    GREENVILLE-SPARTANBURG AP, SC 6 13
    ABERDEEN, SD 36 36
    HURON, SD 39 39
    RAPID CITY, SD 39 39
    SIOUX FALLS, SD 40 40
    BRISTOL-JHNSN CTY-KNGSPRT,TN 16 24
    CHATTANOOGA, TN 4 7
    KNOXVILLE, TN 12 18
    MEMPHIS, TN 5 8
    NASHVILLE, TN 10 15
    OAK RIDGE,TN 10 15
    ABILENE, TX 5 2
    AMARILLO, TX 15 8
    AUSTIN, TX 1 0
    BROWNSVILLE, TX 0 0
    CORPUS CHRISTI, TX 0 0
    DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX 3 2
    DEL RIO, TX 1 1
    EL PASO, TX 6 3
    GALVESTON, TX 0 0
    HOUSTON, TX 0 0
    LUBBOCK, TX 10 5
    MIDLAND-ODESSA, TX 4 2
    PORT ARTHUR, TX 0 0
    SAN ANGELO, TX 3 2
    SAN ANTONIO, TX 1 0
    VICTORIA, TX 0 0
    WACO, TX 1 0
    WICHITA FALLS, TX 6 3
    MILFORD, UT 45 23
    SALT LAKE CITY, UT 58 41
    BURLINGTON, VT 77 108
    LYNCHBURG, VA 18 36
    NORFOLK, VA 7 15
    RICHMOND, VA 14 28
    ROANOKE, VA 23 46
    WALLOPS ISLAND, VA 9 18
    OLYMPIA, WA 17 17
    QUILLAYUTE, WA 14 14
    SEATTLE C.O., WA 7 7
    SEATTLE SEA-TAC AP, WA 12 12
    SPOKANE, WA 50 50
    WALLA WALLA, WA 20 20
    YAKIMA, WA 24 24
    BECKLEY, WV 60 90
    CHARLESTON, WV 32 48
    ELKINS, WV 76 114
    HUNTINGTON, WV 26 41
    GREEN BAY, WI 46 46
    LA CROSSE, WI 42 42
    MADISON, WI 43 43
    MILWAUKEE, WI 47 47
    CASPER, WY 79 79
    CHEYENNE, WY 55 55
    LANDER, WY 102 102
    SHERIDAN, WY 72 72

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  2. Bossman 92

    Bossman 92 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,771

    I sure hope he is right!! I followed him last year and wasn't impressed though. How you been Tim? What's your thoughts on this season?

    Andrew
     
  3. RichG53

    RichG53 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,135

    We will see if he is close ... Last year he got total BASHED,and I mean BASHED(A lot of profanity to him & his wife for writing a column backing him ) on his predictions of storms coming ......
     
  4. stroker79

    stroker79 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,802

    Yeah he pretty much sucks at snow forcasts but he is fun to listen too, lol
     
  5. iceyman

    iceyman 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,541

    well if we get under our average we know to just never listen again//.... this is such a freaking tease
     
  6. FordFisherman

    FordFisherman PlowSite.com Addict
    from 06611
    Messages: 1,593

    You can't ever count on snow. Ever.
     
  7. tls22

    tls22 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,263


    I have been good andrew...how have u been? I can see where HM is coming from....he is going with a active southern branch jet stream and lots of clippers.......for the record he is not the only one saying this....yet alot of his blog readers are out of the northeast...so it makes sense for him to say alot of snow for us. I think a more mundane forcast then his.....i dont think the midwest will get hammered again this winter.....prob very cold and normal snow for them....pretty much what everyone else is saying also.

    Rich and Doug you are 100% correct.........he stop posting for a while cause it got so bad. He often hypes to much...and forcast fantasy storms. The biggest storm i got was in march....he said it would not happen cause the models will not burn him again. Well they did...just in a better way for me.

    He is saying 54 inches for newark....i dont think so.....i would go 32......hell i will take last winter in a min
     
  8. hydro_37

    hydro_37 PlowSite Veteran
    from iowa
    Messages: 3,790

    We can all only HOPE for a good winter.
    I am.
     
  9. mkwl

    mkwl 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,361

    I'd be happy with another winter like last winter- most of the storms were when I was home!- anything better than that would be frosting on the cake!:nod:
     
  10. WingPlow

    WingPlow Senior Member
    Messages: 634

    i dont see how anyone in the snow plowing business can put any amount of faith in a long term forcast

    weather forcasters can only accuratly predict weather to 2-3 days out
     
  11. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    Weathermen are funny. We have a couple of local guys up here that get pretty, well, excited about a big storm. We can always count on the two talking about a "major weather event" well before anyone else. I am mostly concerned with timing. I don't care how much we get, just when it will start/stop.
     
  12. Case580M

    Case580M Senior Member
    Messages: 215

    His prediction for here is 50% of last couple years. Looks like my no snow insurance policy may even work.
     
  13. RepoMan207

    RepoMan207 PlowSite Fanatic
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,031

    Your absolutely right there. They seem to over hype it, especially in the beginning months. "Looks like were getting 12" on Tuesday (Then Monday night comes around) 6" (Then Tuesday morning) 2"- 4" (then its) Oh what a close call, it decided to go out to sea"

    I just want to know what time to get up. There is nothing worse then getting up at 2AM to discover that the storm hasn't even started yet, & then I can't get back to sleep. :realmad:
     
  14. JBMiller616

    JBMiller616 Senior Member
    Messages: 267

    I like being on the northwest side of those tracks.........Henry doesn't tend to be very accurate though. But many others aren't either....
     
  15. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    You must mean "Breaking Weather, Breaking Wind" or "Where the news comes first" LOL.
     
  16. fatboyNJ

    fatboyNJ Senior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 206

    those numbers would be awesome but cant hold ur breath
     
  17. dlcs

    dlcs 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,149

    To tell the truth, i don't like the big storms as much as, I like small frequent storms and ice. :)
     
  18. Young Pup

    Young Pup PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,489

    I will take the small storms too. I don;t like abusing the truck on the big storms.
     
  19. Grampa Plow

    Grampa Plow Senior Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 274

    Ditto on the getting up at 2 (when they say it will start) and then being awake for the rest of the morning. That really sucked. Now I just give the 2 guys that always work security on 3rd shift at a local college $25.00 a season to call me when we get 1/2 inch of snow. I sleep like a baby until then!!
     
  20. ondagawood

    ondagawood Senior Member
    Messages: 128

    Yeah a forecast is only good for 2 - 3 days out. Totals don't mean anything until April when the news people (and newspapers) decide which city gets the "gloden" snowball award for the most snow-fall for the season.
    Timing is the major factor involved here for ALL of us so we know when to head out, etc.... As long as we all have a safe winter too...... :waving: payup