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Help with Snowfall amounts

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself to the Community' started by ksgcapecod, Feb 13, 2006.

  1. ksgcapecod

    ksgcapecod Member
    Messages: 52

    Hello everyone. I am new to the snow plowing business this past year. I was lucky enough to inherit some commercial and residential accounts from a friend who finally grew sick and tired of snow during last years blizzard. I had rewritten the commercial contracts and a few things that I felt should have been in the contracts. The commercial accounts are billed an amount by inches of snow. I had included that I would use NOAA as a ruled of thumb for snowfall amounts. Well, I have searched all over the NOAA site and been unable to find too much help. Does anyone out there know a good site where I can go to find accurate snowfall amounts? Thanks for the help and I look forward to beinging a part of the forums. Ken
     
  2. Young Pup

    Young Pup PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,489

    See if this page helps you any. Click on the link and you should see some figure for Conn,Mass, and surrounding areas. I went to Capecodtimes.com and clicked on the upper right corner of the web page on the weather and just searched that web page for this link. Hope this helps.

    http://www.wunderground.com/US/MA/Hyannis.html#REP

    Where do you live on Cape Cod? I have a brother that lives in Hyannis.
     
  3. ksgcapecod

    ksgcapecod Member
    Messages: 52

    Young Pup, Thanks for the quick response. Although that site has a lot of information I don't see any actual snowfall amount for certain areas. I live in Sagamore Beach, Town of Bourne. I also live very close to the canal and not far from a snow line just up Route 3 in Plymouth. Therefore the plowing in my area can vary quite a bit from Hyannis or further down cape. There has to be something out there that displays a map with somewhat accurate snowfall for let's say Barnstable, Bourne, Sandwich, etc. I will keep checking. I or someone is bound to know or come up with something.
     
  4. Young Pup

    Young Pup PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,489

    I thought I saw a break down on there for the different places like Barnstable, and Marston Mills and such.

    Statement as of 3:45 PM EST on February 13, 2006


    The following are unofficial observations taken for the winter storm
    that affected southern New England on Sunday February 12 2006.
    Appreciation is extended to Highway departments... cooperative
    observers... Skywarn spotters and media for these reports. This
    summary is also available on our home Page at weather.Gov/Boston

    ********************storm total snowfall********************

    Location storm total time/date comments
    snowfall of
    (inches) measurement


    Connecticut

    ... Hartford County...
    West Hartford 27.0 600 PM 2/12
    Farmington 25.5 400 PM 2/12
    Burlington 22.5 532 PM 2/12 final
    Bristol 22.0 635 PM 2/12
    Plainville 22.0 745 PM 2/12
    Windsor Locks 21.9 342 am 2/13 air National guard
    Avon 20.0 400 PM 2/12
    Glastonbury 20.0 345 PM 2/12 spotter
    Manchester 19.5 640 PM 2/12
    East Granby 19.0 400 PM 2/12
    Wethersfield 19.0 400 PM 2/12
    South Windsor 14.5 740 PM 2/12
    Canton 13.0 343 am 2/13 spotter
    Granby 12.3 400 PM 2/12 amateur radio

    ... Tolland County...
    Staffordville 18.0 344 am 2/13 NWS coop observer
    Vernon 17.5 400 PM 2/12
    Union 17.0 400 PM 2/12
    Willington 16.5 400 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Stafford Springs 16.0 551 PM 2/12 spotter
    Hebron 13.8 345 am 2/13 spotter
    Storrs 9.5 440 PM 2/12 spotter

    ... Windham County...
    Moosup 15.0 1000 PM 2/12 spotter
    Ashford 14.0 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    East Thompson 14.0 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Putnam 14.0 400 PM 2/12
    North Grosvenor Dale 13.5 1000 PM 2/12 spotter
    North Woodstock 13.2 551 PM 2/12
    Thompson 13.0 615 PM 2/12
    West Thompson 13.0 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Eastford 12.3 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Pomfret 11.5 900 PM 2/12 spotter
    Woodstock 11.0 700 PM 2/12 spotter

    Massachusetts

    ... Barnstable County...
    West Dennis 12.0 730 am 2/13 media
    Dennis 11.0 830 PM 2/12
    Harwich 11.0 224 PM 2/13 media
    Osterville 10.5 530 am 2/13 media
    Chatham 10.0 530 am 2/13 media
    Orleans 10.0 530 am 2/13 media
    Pocasset 10.0 530 am 2/13 media
    West Hyannisport 10.0 605 am 2/13 media
    Yarmouth Port 10.0 600 am 2/13 spotter
    West Falmouth 9.5 800 PM 2/12 spotter
    Sandwich 9.0 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    East Falmouth 8.9 730 PM 2/12 NWS coop observer
    Brewster 8.3 605 PM 2/12
    Provincetown 8.0 630 am 2/13 media

    ... Bristol County...
    Norton 15.0 600 am 2/13 NWS employee
    North Attleborough 14.8 700 PM 2/12 spotter
    Easton 13.5 815 PM 2/12
    Mansfield 13.0 815 PM 2/12
    Taunton 11.6 1200 am 2/13 NWS office
    New Bedford 10.0 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Rehoboth 10.0 800 PM 2/12 spotter
    Somerset 10.0 800 am 2/13 media
    Acushnet 9.0 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio

    ... Dukes County...
    Edgartown 8.0 645 am 2/13 media
    Tisbury 8.0 700 am 2/13 coop observer

    ... Essex County...
    Salem 18.0 740 PM 2/12 State College
    Swampscott 17.2 900 am 2/13 spotter
    Gloucester 17.0 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Lynn 17.0 1000 PM 2/12 spotter
    Beverly 16.0 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Saugus 16.0 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Topsfield 15.5 729 PM 2/12 spotter
    Danvers 15.0 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Ipswich 14.0 700 PM 2/12 spotter
    Manchester 14.0 400 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Rockport 14.0 730 PM 2/12 spotter
    Marblehead 13.5 635 PM 2/12
    Georgetown 13.0 400 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Methuen 13.0 834 PM 2/12
    Peabody 12.0 400 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Salem 11.0 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio

    ... Franklin County...
    Leverett 5.0 845 PM 2/12
    Whately 3.3 800 PM 2/12 spotter
    Northfield 3.0 530 PM 2/12 spotter
    Charlemont 2.3 405 PM 2/12 spotter

    ... Hampden County...
    Wilbraham 22.0 450 PM 2/12 spotter
    Monson 20.0 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    East Longmeadow 17.0 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Ludlow 15.0 700 PM 2/12 spotter
    Springfield 11.0 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Westfield 7.5 400 PM 2/12 media
    Southwick 7.3 635 PM 2/12

    ... Hampshire County...
    South Hadley 12.0 1100 PM 2/12 spotter
    Amherst 7.0 500 PM 2/12 spotter
    Granby 7.0 730 PM 2/12 spotter
    Easthampton 5.0 400 PM 2/12 spotter
    Northampton 4.0 900 PM 2/12 spotter
    Florence 3.0 800 PM 2/12 spotter

    ... Middlesex County...
    Cambridge 18.2 400 PM 2/12 spotter
    Newton 18.0 600 PM 2/12 spotter
    Pepperell 18.0 500 PM 2/12 spotter
    Townsend 17.7 600 PM 2/12
    Wakefield 17.5 634 am 2/13 spotter
    North Woburn 16.0 108 am 2/13 spotter
    Billerica 15.5 930 PM 2/12
    reading 15.5 900 PM 2/12 spotter
    Framingham 15.2 800 PM 2/12 spotter
    North Billerica 15.2 540 PM 2/12 spotter
    Arlington 15.0 800 PM 2/12 spotter
    Holliston 15.0 1055 PM 2/12 spotter
    Woburn 15.0 800 PM 2/12 spotter
    Wayland 14.5 1050 PM 2/12 spotter
    Everett 14.3 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Littleton 14.0 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Waltham 13.5 700 PM 2/12 spotter
    Westford 13.0 910 PM 2/12
    Carlisle 12.7 800 PM 2/12 spotter
    North Tewksbury 12.5 700 PM 2/12 spotter
    Hudson 12.3 605 PM 2/12
    Belmont 12.0 630 PM 2/12
    Groton 12.0 800 PM 2/12 spotter
    Lincoln 12.0 400 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Ayer 11.0 900 PM 2/12 spotter
    Dracut 11.0 800 PM 2/12 spotter
    Tyngsboro 11.0 655 PM 2/12
    Lowell 10.5 700 PM 2/12 spotter

    ... Nantucket County...
    Nantucket 9.0 630 am 2/13 media

    ... Norfolk County...
    South Weymouth 19.0 609 PM 2/12
    Dover 17.0 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Needham 17.0 805 PM 2/12
    Sharon 17.0 710 PM 2/12
    Randolph 15.5 900 PM 2/12 spotter
    Foxboro 15.0 720 PM 2/12 NWS employee
    Milton 15.0 600 am 2/13 Blue Hill observatory
    Braintree 14.0 640 PM 2/12
    Norwood 13.5 400 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Walpole 13.2 400 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Dedham 13.0 900 PM 2/12 spotter
    Wellesley Hills 13.0 939 PM 2/12
    East Walpole 12.9 920 PM 2/12
    Brookline 12.0 909 PM 2/12 spotter

    ... Plymouth County...
    Plympton 17.0 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Brockton 15.5 847 PM 2/12
    Rockland 15.5 1007 am 2/13 spotter
    Hingham 15.0 800 PM 2/12 spotter
    Hull 14.0 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Hanover 13.8 700 PM 2/12 spotter
    Duxbury 13.5 730 PM 2/12 spotter
    Middleboro 11.3 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Wareham 11.0 600 PM 2/12 spotter
    West Duxbury 11.0 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Plymouth 10.5 530 am 2/13 media
    Scituate 9.3 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Manomet 8.5 745 PM 2/12 spotter
    Marion 7.5 600 PM 2/12

    ... Suffolk County...
    Boston 17.5 753 PM 2/12 Logan Airport
    Boston Common 15.5 900 PM 2/12 NWS employee
    Winthrop 13.9 655 PM 2/12 spotter
    Jamaica Plain 13.5 800 PM 2/12 spotter
    Boston 13.1 900 PM 2/12 spotter - Chinatown

    ... Worcester County...
    Fitchburg 18.0 730 PM 2/12 spotter
    Worcester 18.0 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Millbury 17.0 1000 PM 2/12 spotter
    Worcester 16.9 1200 am 2/13 Airport
    Southbridge 16.8 510 PM 2/12 spotter
    Sutton 16.3 800 PM 2/13 amateur radio
    North Grafton 15.1 700 PM 2/12 spotter
    Milford 14.0 843 PM 2/12
    Boylston 13.5 800 PM 2/12 spotter
    Westborough 13.2 1100 PM 2/12 NWS employee
    Southborough 13.0 900 PM 2/12 spotter
    Hopedale 12.0 900 PM 2/12 spotter
    West Brookfield 12.0 800 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Spencer 11.0 700 PM 2/12 spotter
    Leicester 10.0 350 PM 2/12 spotter
    Phillipston 6.0 440 PM 2/12 spotter

    New Hampshire

    ... Cheshire County...
    Rindge 6.5 405 PM 2/12 spotter
    East Alstead 3.7 500 PM 2/12 spotter
    Keene 2.0 510 PM 2/12 spotter
    Winchester 2.0 415 PM 2/12 spotter

    ... Hillsborough County...
    Hudson 16.8 700 PM 2/12 NWS coop observer
    Nashua 16.5 800 PM 2/12 spotter
    Hudson Center 13.3 800 PM 2/12 spotter
    Milford 9.2 510 PM 2/12 spotter
    Bedford 8.0 700 PM 2/12 spotter
    Wilton 7.0 820 PM 2/12
    Goffstown 6.8 900 PM 2/12 spotter
    Manchester 6.5 1100 PM 2/12 spotter
    Greenfield 4.5 550 PM 2/12
    South Weare 4.3 600 PM 2/12

    Rhode Island

    ... Bristol County...
    Bristol Highlands 14.5 1000 PM 2/12 spotter
    Warren 11.0 700 PM 2/12 spotter

    ... Kent County...
    Warwick 11.5 700 PM 2/12 spotter
    Warwick 9.4 1200 am 2/13 tf Green Airport

    ... Newport County...
    Tiverton 9.4 901 am 2/13 coop observer
    Middletown 8.3 630 PM 2/12 spotter

    ... Providence County...
    Woonsocket 15.8 700 PM 2/12 spotter
    Burrillville 15.0 900 PM 2/12 spotter
    Cumberland 14.0 920 PM 2/12 NWS employee
    Cumberland Hill 13.5 600 PM 2/12
    North Foster 13.4 849 PM 2/12
    Scituate 13.0 355 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    Smithfield 13.0 355 PM 2/12 amateur radio
    North Providence 12.0 655 PM 2/12
    Cranston 11.0 630 PM 2/12
    Pawtucket 9.0 700 PM 2/12 spotter

    ... Washington County...
    South Kingstown 12.7 515 PM 2/12 spotter
    Hope Valley 9.0 625 PM 2/12
    North Kingstown 8.5 836 PM 2/12




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  5. Fertilawn Inc.

    Fertilawn Inc. Junior Member
    Messages: 1

    Go to national weather service .They give town by town amounts.
     
  6. ksgcapecod

    ksgcapecod Member
    Messages: 52

    Young Pup, I guess I missed it. Thank you. Also, Thank you Fertilawn.
     
  7. ice-eater

    ice-eater Junior Member
    Messages: 21

    Don't make that mistake!

    It's a mistake to go by NOAA amounts even if you could find them. In one community, like where I am in Columbus, Oh, the depth at one end of town may be 5" and only 2" on the NE corner of town, but at the airport where the "official" depth is calculated at, there may me NONE, ZERO, NADA! Then what are you going to bill? In addition to that problem... Factors such as winds and perimeter curb height and lanscaping features can make a HUGE difference in the depth of snow from one place to the place right next door! If the winds are high one night and at Property #1 which is a trucking firm with no curbs, all the snow blows off and all that's left is some thin and spotty patches. But just down-wind of that is a McDonalds that you plow also, and it has 8" tall curbs and raised landscaping around that, (I call those "bowl prop[erties), so the average depth there is 5-1/2" deep, and there isn't 200 ft. distance between the two properties! ALWAYS tell your customers that the price charged id based on how much snow the average on THIER lot has accumulated to AT THE TIME THAT SERVICE IS PROVIDED!
     
  8. Rampart Ranger

    Rampart Ranger Senior Member
    Messages: 165

    What ever happened to KISS?

    The simplest and fairest way to charge is by actual equip+materials+labor+profit.

    Figure your hourly cost and charge by the hour.

    Is there really a reason to do otherwise?
     
  9. Snaaar

    Snaaar Member
    Messages: 76

    I agree w/ ice-eater.

    We record a great amount of information at each service visit, including inches on lot, inches on public walks, inches on building walks, etc. Our billing per inch is based on actual inches, not the snowfall at the local airport or measuring station - that approach never even crossed my mind as a possibility.

    Billing per hour is logical, fair to all, and easy. I contract by inches because I can make more money that way. That's a pretty good reason, eh?