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Help with a price

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by sullycape, Nov 5, 2011.

  1. sullycape

    sullycape Junior Member
    from 02664
    Messages: 6

    I have a small time, mostly residential plowing business and yesterday I was asked to bid on a neighborhood association. I counted out the driveways at 55. Normally driveways this size would be about $30, since they are small, some only the length of a car or two, a few at 30 feet. They want a per push price at 3 inches, done by 6 am, a price to come back should more snow fall, and a price to come back if the town plows the lots in. The short walk ways need to be cleared, as do the mailbox areas. I am assuming they would want a pretty big discount for buying in bulk which I am willing to do. I guess my question is does anyone have an account like this with three prices, normally I set a base price and charge $5 an inch over that amount in case of a blizzard or heavy storm. How much of a discount could they be looking for?

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. Rc2505

    Rc2505 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,245

    If you have the right equipment, You could look at somewhere around the 15 dollars per drive mark, and still do very well. With a compact tractor and a blower you should be in and out of those 55 drives in about 2 hours.
     
  3. Banksy

    Banksy PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,113

    $25 mimimum. Try pitching them $250 each for the season. That's $13,750.
     
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  4. sullycape

    sullycape Junior Member
    from 02664
    Messages: 6

    I have a Chevy P/U with a 7'6 plow and a snow blower but don't you think $15.00 each is a little light? I don't want to be known as the guy who under cuts every one. I was thinking more along the lines of $19 each.
     
  5. sullycape

    sullycape Junior Member
    from 02664
    Messages: 6

    I don't think a seasonal price is what they are looking for since it is possible that it not snow here all year, or only snow a few times.
     
  6. 7_below

    7_below Senior Member
    Messages: 245

    Are u doing all 55 by yourself? If it took you 2-5 mins per driveway, That's about 4.5 hrs to plow all 55.That's if you have someone else shoveling.
     
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  7. sullycape

    sullycape Junior Member
    from 02664
    Messages: 6

    I usually work by myself but it looks like I may need some help, I figured near 6 hours by myself or 7 minutes each, which is about 175 an hour, not bad.
     
  8. 7_below

    7_below Senior Member
    Messages: 245

    If you really think you'll get the bid, I would find a sub to help plow and another 2 guys shoveling or blowing. Then you can be in and out within 2 hrs or so. You pay your sub and helpers by the hour.
    I mean think about it, do you really want to plow 55 drives with a 7.5' straight blade. Then shovel. Then try to get to your normal residentials in a descent time. What do you do when it starts snowing at 2am and you have 4-5" by 4am? And these people need to be buffed up by 6am. And it takes you 6 hrs by yourself. Your gunna drive yourself crazy in a big storm. If you think you can handle it, more power to ya. Oh yeah, Where do you live where it might only snow a couple times?
     
  9. sullycape

    sullycape Junior Member
    from 02664
    Messages: 6

    I live on Cape Cod, some years we get killed, some years it's rains. I also put a blizzard clause into the contract so in case of a very big storm the 6 am deadline is suspended.
     
  10. 7_below

    7_below Senior Member
    Messages: 245

    Also, I hope your insured. The homeowners association will probably require that, and besides you should be anyway if your taking on that much. Good luck dude.
     
  11. 7_below

    7_below Senior Member
    Messages: 245

    Suspended to when? Whenever you can get there?
     
  12. sullycape

    sullycape Junior Member
    from 02664
    Messages: 6

    Yea pretty much, we have had storms here where you can't even get down the roads because the town hasn't plowed enough of them yet. I don't want to be held to something I cannot control.
     
  13. Banksy

    Banksy PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,113

    Then do away with the 6 am promise part of the bid. 55 driveways is a lot and you could have 3 inches dumped in a couple of hours and you just got started at 5 am. What if the truck won't start or the plow won't work and you only have a couple of hours until 6 am? Time frames just invite Murphy's Law to the table. I never had trouble getting around unplowed roads with 12+ inches while plowing driveways, so I wouldn't offer that as an excuse. You are a snow plowing expert, so telling them you can't get there because the town didn't plow the roads won't go over well.
     
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2011