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Help! Western Plow bent...

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by NEXTDAYSIGNS, Dec 23, 2007.

  1. NEXTDAYSIGNS

    NEXTDAYSIGNS Member
    Messages: 92

    I need some help. I just noticed that my frame is bent. I am not sure the proper name for this part of the frame but the pictures should help. I looked at me owners manual and it does not look like a bolt is missing just bent. It is at th point when I angle it wants to pop out. I have a shop that can weld it or bend what needs to be done. I just need a little direction. Any help or ideas on what needs to be done will be great. Thanks in advanced.

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  2. NJ Plowman

    NJ Plowman Senior Member
    Messages: 799

    How old is the plow? Is it selonoid or cable controlled?
     
  3. wild bill

    wild bill PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,239

    loose

    it appear's that the a frame quadrant guide is bent/worn out you will have to fab a new one .
     
  4. NEXTDAYSIGNS

    NEXTDAYSIGNS Member
    Messages: 92

    Thanks, That is what I was thinking maybe a piece if c channel.
     
  5. Wicked500R

    Wicked500R Senior Member
    Messages: 394

    Or just find a new A-frame...I don't like the way the lift chains are attached to that point...all the weight of the plow is on that while bouncing down the road...:eek: Bad design...Thats probably how it bent...
     
    Last edited: Dec 23, 2007
  6. ppandr

    ppandr Senior Member
    Messages: 619

    Can't say I have ever seen one bent that bad. What did you hit....or did you restrict the blade from tripping somehow causing it to bend the whole channel????? Chances are your pin/hole where the frame rotates is shot as well allowing for the frame to move forward enough to bend that channel. I have had western/fisher blades for well over 20 years and have only seen this once when I hit a curb with the blade 30 mph while mearly driving. Also, blew out the cylinder so it looked like an apple was stuffed in it. This is not normal wear and tear.
     
    Last edited: Dec 23, 2007
  7. Crash935

    Crash935 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,377

    Ive never seen one bend there because of the chains, usually its from running into things yoou shouldnt run into. Looks like its been like that for a while also.

    If you have the tools, you can seperate the quad from the a-frame, cut the quadrant guide off and reweld it back on with some reinforcements or just get a new a-frame.
     
  8. B&B

    B&B PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,777

    You might want to check the front pivot bolt and hole also in the A-frame and quadrant...I'll bet it's worn.

    Because judging by your pics, the quadrant isn't far enough under the quadrant guide (the bent piece).. that's what causes them to bend in the first place.. the force of the quadrant is too far forward under the guide, causing it to bend it upward... happens more on the Meyer blades but the Westerns will do it too.
     
  9. Crash935

    Crash935 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,377

    OH Yeah, good catch there pal, didnt notice the gap there and didnt even think pivot bolt area being shot (wife must have been distracting me), Looks like its time for a new a-frame.
     
  10. itsgottobegreen

    itsgottobegreen PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,351

    Going to say pivot bolt. Who did u get ur plow from?
     
  11. Runner

    Runner Senior Member
    Messages: 957

    I would just rebuild it, rather than buying new. We've done quite a few of them. As a matter of fact, one that I'm getting ready to do for the second time (about three years since it has been done). We either weld a new plate on the op and bottom and re-drill, or we re-weld around the hole and re-drill.
     
  12. NEXTDAYSIGNS

    NEXTDAYSIGNS Member
    Messages: 92

    I got the plow at R&B. Just talked to them it looks like a new a frame is around $400. I am going to look online to see what I can find price wise. I have looked at cutting and pasting. From what I can see the time I will have in it I could buy a new A-Frame. We will see. It is tough to spend $$$ with no snow.
     
  13. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,868

    Dang those moving parts breaking. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    Good thing you don't have a Blizzard. ;)
     
  14. Runner

    Runner Senior Member
    Messages: 957

    It really doesn't take that long since te whole thig has to come off anyway. $400 to weld a few pieces of steel is well worth it to me. This includes fixing up the plow mount pin holes, and even any work on the plow to A frame mount. That get whopped out, too.
     
  15. merrimacmill

    merrimacmill PlowSite.com Addict
    from MA
    Messages: 1,822

    I'd say the only way to fix problem is to get a Boss.:nod: wesport
     
  16. GreenKingL&L

    GreenKingL&L Member
    Messages: 36

    I just picked up a brand new a-frame off of ebay shipped for 165. The frame and the quadrant on my 7.5 are bent all to hell, can't seem to find a quadrant so I will probably remake that part.