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Help me decide on newer truck

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by jonw440, Feb 11, 2003.

  1. jonw440

    jonw440 Senior Member
    Messages: 139

    Ok first off, My Wife says she wants to wait a while to buy HER a new car. So She told me to buy a new truck!
    I only have 20,000 to play with. I am looking at a 2001 2500 Quad cab 4x4. It has 62,000 miles but other than that it is P-E-R-F-E-C-T ! The Dodge dealer is asking 18995.
    It has the 5.9l Magnum 360 with SLT trim. I do want the 3/4 ton so I can put a plow on it. What do you guys think? To many miles? I did notice this truck (quad cab 3/4 ton 4x4 are big bucks) Let me know your opinions....

    This will be replacing my 92 Bronco with 7 1/2 Meyer
  2. Grshppr

    Grshppr Senior Member
    Messages: 268

    I think for 20k you'd be able to find something with less miles on it. Is the Dodge a short box? Are the 62k miles all highway?
  3. jkkalbers

    jkkalbers Senior Member
    Messages: 116

    Too many miles on it. My experience with dodges in the past, is once you hit 60,000 be prepared to start dumping money into it. I understand the money is tight but for peace of mind I would find something with fewer miles on it, even if it is a couple of years older. If you have a back up truck it wouldn't be such a big deal, but if it is your only truck I wouldn't trust it. I'm not just saying this because it's a Dodge, I'm a big dodge fan. I would say the same for any brand.
  4. wyldman

    wyldman Member
    Messages: 3,265

    How much plowing are you doing with your current truck and what are you going to do with it in the future ?

    If your just doing residential stuff,a 1/2 ton with a more fuel efficient engine may be a better choice.The 5.9L in a 3/4 ton quad cab 4x4 is really thirsty when it come to fuel.

    If your going to get into bigger stuff,then look for one with a diesel.The Cummins is nice option on the Dodges,a bit more upfront,but it will pay off over time.If you still want to go with a 3/4 ton gas,I think the GM's and Ford's are a lot better in the fuel mileage dept.
  5. fordman

    fordman Senior Member
    Messages: 327

    Definitly. You can't go wrong with the Cummins.
  6. Nozzleman

    Nozzleman Senior Member
    Messages: 267

    One thing you need to consider about this dodge is that due to the miles you described it's probably a 2000 not a 2001. Now let me explain this. The model year 2000 Dodge Ram was a short run, meaning they only built from late summer 1999 until 1-1-00. Anything built after 1-1-00 is badged and sold as a 2001 model year. Don't ask me why Dodge did this but they did. I personally had 2001 Ram 2500 that was purchased new by me in April of 2000 and the door jamb sticker said it was built in February 2000. So just for giggles check the sticker on the drivers door and see when it was built, chances are it was sometime in early 2000.
  7. jonw440

    jonw440 Senior Member
    Messages: 139

    I will be plowing a few driveways around town and my inlaw's :eek: they live out of town (20 miles).
    I dont want the 1/2 ton sags, I want the truck to be heavy duty enough for the plow.
    As for the Diesel....... I would trade my righ AND left :rolleyes: :rolleyes: for a diesel. But the money is too tight for that. Plus I need the extra room (quadcab, or crewcab, ext cab) for my Wife and three kids. This will be my primary transportation. The loan I have states it must be between 1997-present and no more than 65,000 miles. I have $20,000. That will be for taxes,title, ect.....
    If someone can find me a PSD or Cummings in a 1997-2003 crewcab 4x4 for 20,000 with 65,000 miles or less. Tell me and I will get it.
  8. wyldman

    wyldman Member
    Messages: 3,265

    For that light plow use,a decent half ton would be fine.Especially if your putting your existing meyer on it.A late 90's chev extended cab would be a good choice if the kids are small.If the kids are older,3 of them won't be happy in the back of an extended cab,so you might want to look at a Yukon or Suburban.They actually plow a little better due to better weight distribution,and will make the kids a little more happy in the back.
  9. baddboygeorge

    baddboygeorge Senior Member
    Messages: 237

    well get a ford f 350 powerstroke look on ebay lots of good deals!
  10. Dockboy

    Dockboy Guest
    Messages: 0

  11. jonw440

    jonw440 Senior Member
    Messages: 139

    Thanks for the tips!!
    I cant get any of those because the loan says the truck must come from a "franchised" dealer. ie Ford or Dodge dealer. Not a Broker or Mom&Pop dealer.:rolleyes:
    I am looking at two trucks today. Here is a picture of one. It has 34K with 36,000 miles. The asking price is $20,500 It is a 1998

  12. MLB

    MLB Senior Member
    Messages: 110

    Hope you've added up

    the tax, title, plates in the deal. New car dealer, I'd offer at least 3k less than what they're asking.
  13. JCurtis

    JCurtis Banned
    Messages: 862

    I'm a bit confused....

    Your loan papers tell you what dealer you have to go to?

    What kind of loan company or bank is it from?

    Whenever I go for a loan, and I have gone for a few, I NEVER was dictated to as to what type of dealer I had to go to.

    I have purchased cars and trucks privately and from dealerships and never had the loan giver dictate where or who I can buy from, let alone what year vehicle I could buy.

    I admit that most loan companies wont give you more than what the book says the car is worth, but I would never fdo business with a loan company or bank that told me where I can and can't buy from. As long as they are a licensed dealer in your area, they should approve the loan, hell even if its from a private party they should be alright with it.

    My suggestion ..... Look for another lender first, then look for a truck, also see if the dealership will finance the truck for you. MOST of THEM Do.
  14. BRIMOW525

    BRIMOW525 Senior Member
    Messages: 259

    I'd say too many miles. the thing is only 2 yrs old and 65K? You can find something for less mile than that. I was looking for a 3/4 ton extra cab for a while but they are SO hard to find in the shape that I want. Either the miles are high or they want too much for the vehicle. If they even can find one.
  15. cat320

    cat320 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,222

    that looks like Herb Chambers in Danvers if it is try to beat him down another $2K I'm sure the guy who traded it took a bath on .I know my sisiter did when she bought there. They are not to nice to deal with and there service is bad.
  16. frogman

    frogman Member
    from MD
    Messages: 53

    Hello Jonw,
    I'm going to give you my opinion on this. It's based on my experience alone which has been very positive. I was in pretty much the same boat in 2000. Needed another truck for work/plowing and a back-up vehicle for the family. I found a 96 2500 Magnum, long bed, with approx 64,000 miles on it. Immaculate condition but for a few minor asthetics. I had it checked out by a mechanic buddy of mine and took it to a tranny specialist for a looksee. No problems but was forwarned about the inherent tranny/overdrive problems. Was told that I could anticipate needing a rebuild at some point (from what I understand that prob has been fixed for the 2000 and later mods). I purchased an extended warranty that covered that possibility. I use it for clearing work in spring-fall, a lot of off road 4-wheeling work, log skidding, trailering bush-hogs etc. and plowing. I had a 7.5' plow on it with a tailgate spreader on the back. Put that plow on another truck and got an 8 footer last year. I've been very pleased with it's performance. It's a great working truck, comfortable and goes the distance. We've had a Volvo 360 for a half a dozen years. Before picking up a Suburban 5 months ago, the kids liked riding in the back seat of the truck vs the Volvo. There's a fair amount of room back there. When I do salt runs, I have 650 lbs in the spreader put another 1600 lbs in bed in bags + plow + tools. No problem. That's a good engine that'll do what you want of it. The transmission did go on me. It's got a new one now (cost me 116.00, even rented another truck under the warrantee) with another 3 year warranty. I take the heat for the tranny drop. I did not always 100% shut the overdrive off when I was pulling a load and/or transporting one. My bust, not the truck's I'm not a big die-hard fan of any vehicle make and base my assessment on performance. Does it do what I expected, better or worse. There may be better ones out there but this one rates high with me.
    Good luck.
  17. Dockboy

    Dockboy Guest
    Messages: 0

    I bet it is one of those Credit Card "Pre-Approved Auto Loans" right jonw440?

    I get those periodically. Just got one today from a CC company for $40,000. Has the same sort of restrictions, 97 or newer, mileage restriction, ect.

    If it is, just make sure the intrest rate is not like 20%:eek:

    Most Banks will lend money for used vehicle's for around 10%.

  18. jonw440

    jonw440 Senior Member
    Messages: 139

    Mine is 11% My credit is kind of iffy........
    I drove the red truck pictured above. It has 31,300 miles but it is a 1998. It also has a MM Fisher with bed liner and cap. I got them down to $17,750. I was pumped until I went to pay for it. The "Finance" manager says "WE" dont take "Internet drafts". We can do our financing though :realmad:

    I was so &ISSED I called the people I got the loan from (Citibank) and the FM still would not take it as payment.
    Soooooooo....... I fell for it I filled out a credit app. through them. Who knows maybe it will be a better term than the one I have.
    The funny thing happened.. On the way home I stopped at another Dodge dealer and showed him the check He said OH no problem!! We are getting more and more of these everyweek!
    He had the 2001 with 61,000 miles. That truck drove AND looked brand new. The red one with the plow pulled to the right and the brakes were in the need of replacing. (They said they would check on it.
    Here is the silver 2001.

  19. cat320

    cat320 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,222

    jonw440 was that red one at herb chambers in danvers??
  20. jonw440

    jonw440 Senior Member
    Messages: 139

    Yup :waving:
    Do you know the previous owner?
    Did you check it out?