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Help changing the plug wires

Discussion in 'Truck & Equipment Repair' started by birddseedd, Apr 10, 2014.

  1. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
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    Went to change the plugs on an 02 f350, the bolt holding the plug wire boot on doesnt seem to fit any standard size socket. 7 is too big, 6 is too small. 1/4 is too small, 9/32 is too big.

    ???

    thanks for the help
     
  2. Whiffyspark

    Whiffyspark 2000 Club Member
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    Messages: 2,402

    Should be a 7 bird. Little play in it
     
  3. Whiffyspark

    Whiffyspark 2000 Club Member
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    Make sure you blow the holes out with air before you take plugs out.
     
  4. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,516

    the 7 seemed to have quite a bit of play. im going to soak them in penetrating oil.

    im hoping the plugs have been changed before. youtube shows the original ones to be a real pain.
     
  5. Whiffyspark

    Whiffyspark 2000 Club Member
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    Messages: 2,402

    The bolts shouldn't be that tight.

    Crack each plug a half of turn. Spray some penetrating oil in there and let it sit for 20 minutes. It'll help them come out

    Shouldn't have any problems with stripping. That was mainly on 3 valve 5.4s. 150s had it a lot.

    Once I changed my method I never stripped another one. I used to hate the 150s lol. Ended up using an electric impact to do them

    Which is kind of ironic because that was the only motor I never used my 3/8 impact on lol
     
  6. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
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    I'm not even sure if iv got the one with the plugs that break off or not. guess ill find out.

    i can rent/borrow the tool made to remove the borken plug if i have to, but really looks like a pain, jsut working on this thing is a pain. you have to crarwl on top of the engine.

    are dodge 1 tons like that?
     
  7. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,971

    So actually playing mechanic is hard. Did you youtube dodge 1 tons for the answer?
     
  8. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
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    havnt looked at any dodges. all i can afford is ford. for now.

    its not hard persay, its just that ford did something stupid with the plugs and they break off, then you have to go through using a special tool to pull out the borken plug. hopefully mine is not like that.
     
  9. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
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    Then it don't matter which is easier ford or dodge.
     
  10. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
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    I suppose not, i can still be curious, since my next one will be a dodge.
     
  11. Whiffyspark

    Whiffyspark 2000 Club Member
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    No. Yours blows plugs out of the head. Most that stripped were 3 valves. 04+

    And no dodges aren't much easier. They have/had 16 plugs.

    They're all the same now. If you take the air intake off they're a lot easier to work on. I take it off and let the air out of the front tires
     
  12. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,516

    Yes. Picked up some plus for my dodge too. Couldn't believe it when her told me 16
     
  13. Whiffyspark

    Whiffyspark 2000 Club Member
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    In his defense. It's expensive to have a mechanic do plugs.

    I know if one broke we charged 350. Per broken plug. lol

    I think book time we 1.8 for 5.4 plugs. Plus $90 or so for plugs.

    So 280 or so for 20 minutes of work
     
  14. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
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    its not hard as much as simply being a pain. I'v done some plugs where the design was actually to remove the engine from the vehicle. shop wanted 1500 bucks. my old car was a pain, had to remove the condenser just to get to them, behind the engine.
     
  15. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,549

    The plugs on a Dodge v8 couldn't be easier to get to or change.
    I've never striped the threads out of a cast iron head.
    Ant it takes 8 plugs....

    The only part that is a pain is getting to the distributor.
     
  16. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
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    The fords have COP......dist are old school
     
  17. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,549

    & 95% of all plow trucks on the road are "old school"

    Why would you need to change the plugs on a new truck?
     
  18. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
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    its got almost 90k miles on it
     
  19. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
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    Its a 2002 read the 1st post.

    Ford has been COP since 1999 or before.
     
  20. Whiffyspark

    Whiffyspark 2000 Club Member
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    Dodge takes 16

    Ford modulars have a very well known problem of snapping plugs. They are a two piece design.

    They also shoot the plugs out on early modulars. Lightning is horrible for it. They only had two or three threads holding plugs in.

    I've probably snapped two dozen 150s plugs