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heavy,wet snow ...same price?

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by joestruck, Feb 25, 2010.

  1. joestruck

    joestruck Junior Member
    Messages: 10

    Looking for reasonable and thoughtful responses from people who have success in overcoming this old question that always comes up .

    As a customer,should I expect to pay more for a heavy wet snowstorm than my normal set price?

    As the plow guy, a customer is essentially "buying my time" and equipment for the convenience of snow removal.

    Other issue is if you have two trucks ,both take longer to plow the route,so the operators are getting paid more;so if you charge the same price you make less money which is the bottom line.

    Let me know,thanks
     
  2. iceyman

    iceyman 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,545

    how much wet heavy snow we talking
     
  3. erkoehler

    erkoehler PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,268

    Powder or concrete it all costs the same. My trigger is 2" and I will plow it every 2" to try to keep my route times down :)
     
  4. WIPensFan

    WIPensFan PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,496

    Doesn't matter how wet and heavy it is, for me it's how much accumulation. 3" of fluff or 3" of wet stuff is still charged the same. After 4" of either the price goes up equally.
     
  5. joestruck

    joestruck Junior Member
    Messages: 10

    About 6" when rain hit... we have some sidewalks in the route.so timing is important prior to the snow getting too heavy

    As far a 2" maintenance pushes go, we pushed off the heavy snow early to hit every one at least once, then any "slush" build up we go back for to clean up.

    My belief is this is the type of storm where the customers are very very pleased to see the plow guy move the cement at the end of the driveway....and the neighbors are looking out wishing they had a plow guy.

    But still takes more time and ALOT more wear and tear....
     
  6. joestruck

    joestruck Junior Member
    Messages: 10

    For the record I do the same...right now I go by accumulation no matter what.
     
  7. ajslands

    ajslands 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,033

    Same here! :salute:
     
  8. Lil STX Ford

    Lil STX Ford Senior Member
    Messages: 176

    Hi customer, sorry but have to charge 10 bucks more for your driveway cuz the snow was wet....,
    reply:........ WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! SLAMMMMMMMMMMM door on face..
     
  9. starc

    starc Senior Member
    Messages: 229

    Do you charge less when it's an easy push ?
     
  10. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    All the same to me.
     
  11. Plowtoy

    Plowtoy Senior Member
    Messages: 929

    Agreed! Plowing circles all day isn't much fun but just try to keep up!!
     
  12. joestruck

    joestruck Junior Member
    Messages: 10

    Thanks guys. majority rules. Going to stop worrying about it.
     
  13. plowzilla

    plowzilla Senior Member
    Messages: 289

    If you have a contract in inches, that is what you should charge. Sometimes your the windshield, sometimes your the bug. That the way it is. Unless you charge hourly. Obviously you get less on the fluff, and more on the peanut butter.:laughing:
     
  14. BigLou80

    BigLou80 Senior Member
    Messages: 558

    well said.

    You need to price at a point where the good storms make up for the really lousy ones like this.
     
  15. vt properties

    vt properties Senior Member
    from vermont
    Messages: 194

    Just got finished plowing 24 hrs straight in 2' of wet heavy snow. All of my contracts , commercial and res, get charged the same as agreed. However my phone was ringing off the hook with residents wanting plow outs. I charged $45 for a one car drive and up to $90 for a larger res. Im talking 2 plus feet of wet stuff. A few tried to complain , i said call someone eles, but thay all agreed. I mean If you call me for service and the drive has not been plowed at all I am certainly going to charge at least 2x or 3x my rate for a job. It was terrible. I had to put 6' piles in front of this guys garage, backdragging was not an option. I gave each of them my card and said a contract would avoid this. Also I have a route and it takes me time to make a run out of the way, so they get serviced last.
     
  16. vamootsman

    vamootsman Senior Member
    Messages: 316

    If you bid it right it will all even out in the end. Some days you'll plow 3" so fast that you feel like you're stealing. The next time you're plowing 3" of wet heavy crap and you think that you are getting screwdrivered! But, it still balances out if you bid it right to start with.
     
  17. joestruck

    joestruck Junior Member
    Messages: 10

    Echoing the same thoughts here as many of you have written. Thank you all for your replies.ussmileyflag
     
  18. Camden

    Camden PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,598

    The problem with charging different prices is that who would decide if it's "wet snow" or if it's "heavy"?

    At what point does snow go from being dry to being wet? At what point does snow become heavy?

    Too many variables exist for this to be worthwhile IMO.
     
  19. Brant'sLawnCare

    Brant'sLawnCare PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,754

    Yeah. Don't always bid stuff thinking about the "easy" snowfalls.
     
  20. mercer_me

    mercer_me PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,361

    I charge per push and I charge the same price for heavy snow and lite snow.