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Grader vs loader

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by lawntec, Sep 2, 2014.

  1. lawntec

    lawntec Senior Member
    Messages: 133

    We are considering the purchase of 3 loaders this year. I not that experience with equipment this size. Currently we have 3 M110 Kubota's with HLA snow wings. They are great for certain areas. But for large parking lots....what should i be getting...a loader or grader. I know ill get 1 loader for loading trucks for sure..but:

    1) What is the advantage of a grader vs a loader?

    2) Where does each one of them shine? Bear in mind we ar -20 all winter so scraping ice/snowpack is a large concern of ours.

    Thank you for the help.
     
  2. hyperpack

    hyperpack Senior Member
    Messages: 108

    Loaders for parking lots

    I plowed roads for 7 years before I started with large commercial parking lots, I did all the road plowing with a Grader and wing. When I started doing parking lots I thought the grader would have a place but found it nearly useless, with any amount of snow I could make 3 or 4 passes moving the windrow over then would still need the loader to move it to the stockpile. I found loaders with pushers are much faster and with packed snow or ice just the bucket cuts it up much better than a grader could. It is harder to find good grader operators than loader operators, plus a loader is cheaper to run than a grader. If you had long roads along with your parking lots you may have a little grader work and with a front push blade on the grader you may get a little work done but it would not come close to what a loader can do on parking lots. I have not started my grader in the winter for at least ten years.
    Hyperpack
     
  3. Buswell Forest

    Buswell Forest PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,668

    Agree. Loaders. If trying to scrape clean, bigger is better. New cutting edges too.
     
  4. peteo1

    peteo1 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,659

    I build parking lots and roads for a living and I can tell you unless you have a large lot like Walmart or Home Depot trying to turn a grader around is a pain in the @$$. Loaders all the way for parking lots and contrary to popular belief on this site, bigger isn't always better
     
  5. mercer_me

    mercer_me PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,361

    When I worked for Maine DOT I plowed with a John Deere 670G with a V plow and wing a lot. It worked great for pushing banks back and scraping ice and hard pack but, it was to slow (compared to a truck) to plow roads with all the time. I used it to plow the parking lot at the shed and it made quick work of that but, I think a loader with a decent size pusher would be quicker. If you ever run into a situation where there is a lot of ice and hard pack you will love a grader but, I think overall a loader would be better for parking lots.

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  6. buckwheat_la

    buckwheat_la 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,254

    There is a guy around here who uses graders to windrow and loaders to clean up and I tell you it is something to watch. Most of the time he gets straight to black top and boy does it work fast.
     
  7. cold_and_tired

    cold_and_tired PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,246

    Loader with a pusher would be my pick.

    I could see an extremely experienced blade making short work of some snow but there are far more loader operators out there.

    Another thing to consider; which machine will you have more work for in the off season?