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Gate keys and remote clickers for multiple crews

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by TGS Inc., Dec 17, 2013.

  1. TGS Inc.

    TGS Inc. Senior Member
    from Detroit
    Messages: 569

    I have always had challenges with gate keys and clickers during snow events. We do a lot of work that involve locked gates. Some have clickers, some have keys. We use multiple crews for these sites. Sidewalks, plow and salt truck so keeping track of keys has always been an issue at the worst possible time. Wondering if anyone has had success with something.

    I have the real estate lock boxes but those are hard to open in the middle of the night and it doesn't address the remote clickers.

    I'm thinking of perhaps a small box that could mount on a fence or something. Wondering what you guys have seen or perhaps have an idea for....?

    Thanks!
     
  2. SnowGuy73

    SnowGuy73 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 24,868

    Good idea. Invent something that can hold a clicker and your be rich!
     
  3. How about a fire Dept key box
     
  4. framer1901

    framer1901 Senior Member
    Messages: 813

    We have key copies of all the gates in every vehicle, even the loaders. We just put the keys on the truck key chain, that way if you are driving the thing, you have the keys. We got tired of chasing key sets, people forgeting them in their pocket etc....

    With the clickers, what about buying extra ones and programing them to that gate - one three button opener could do three gates - program them all and put them in the trucks.

    That seems like a hassle, extra money but one less thing to even think about while **** hitting the fan.
     
  5. beanz27

    beanz27 Senior Member
    Messages: 984

    Problem with that is if they are like a trucking company we do. They give us 3 key cards to enter into the lot, thats it. So one stays in one tractor, one in the boss's truck and a third in the shop for whoever needs it. But they won't do more, so if you loose one, too bad.
     
  6. framer1901

    framer1901 Senior Member
    Messages: 813

    What's the problem with making copies???

    A locksmith can copy any key, just tell the customer what you are doing and the reason behind it. I would think that 95% of customers would understand and allow it - tell them you'll make 5 copies so you'll have 8 total and you'll return 8 copies to them in the spring.

    The keys we have, we don't return them, hell, we've had them year round for 8+ years.

    Now I re read, you said key cards, not keys. Well....... there's got to be a way to get more of them, where did the originals come from, someone makes them - if it's gonna make my life easier I refuse to hear no.

    Look at it this way, it'll be that much more satisfying when you are holding 10 cards in your hand that work.
     
  7. beanz27

    beanz27 Senior Member
    Messages: 984

    Normal keys wouldn't be an issue, but encrypted key cards are another thing, they aren't 20 cents to make.
     
  8. TGS Inc.

    TGS Inc. Senior Member
    from Detroit
    Messages: 569

    I will have to look up the firemans box.

    We have keys, key cards and remotes. Having full key sets for all trucks may work by territory providing we could make many copies of the remotes and the key cards.

    For example: We work in downtown Detroit. This is where most of our access issues are. We have 2-3 sidewalk crews. 3-4 salt trucks. 5-7 plows. Each of these would require access at some point. To make a set for each crew would me 12-15 sets. I guess it would be worth it if it meant the end of the "I can't get in to the site" calls.

    Thought about a master box at our remote salt bin but then who knows if the guys would return the keys or not. Ugh. Hate gates and locks!
     
  9. hosejockey4506

    hosejockey4506 Senior Member
    Messages: 232

    when searching for Fire department boxes they are commonly refereed to as KNOX boxes/ chances are that company will not sell to you as a private business
     
  10. Whiffyspark

    Whiffyspark 2000 Club Member
    from SOMD
    Messages: 2,402

    You can buy them on amazon or a simple google search
     
  11. erkoehler

    erkoehler PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,268

    anyone can buy a Knox box, but you will not get the key to open it.
     
  12. leigh

    leigh PlowSite.com Addict
    from CT
    Messages: 1,997

    Not like the good old days! Carry a set of bolt cutters and have your own padlock that you would just add to the chain! Oh well, that's progress I guess.
     
  13. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,516

    Aren't these one in the same? mount it on the fence, give the code to anyone who needs access
     
  14. Whiffyspark

    Whiffyspark 2000 Club Member
    from SOMD
    Messages: 2,402

    I a guess they're fake cause they come with keys lol
     
  15. Whiffyspark

    Whiffyspark 2000 Club Member
    from SOMD
    Messages: 2,402

    Why not put the clicker in the lockbox?
     
  16. TGS Inc.

    TGS Inc. Senior Member
    from Detroit
    Messages: 569

    Here's a little update:

    I have decided to give anyone in need of access a copy of their key, clicker or card. They will sign something saying they have received these. They also know that at the conclusion of the season they will have $ 200.00 held back if they do not turn in all assigned keys. Also during an event they have every key they will need. If they forget them and one of our area managers has to take them a key, they will be billed for this.

    Bought 20 clickers and spent $ 100.00 at the locksmith.

    Bring on the sanity for the next event!
     
  17. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,516

    100? my truck clicker is 90 bucks just in itself
     
  18. JimMarshall

    JimMarshall Senior Member
    from NW PA
    Messages: 785

    What?

    I think he means he spent $100 having keys cut

    I'm lucky in that all of my locations that are locked are a padlock. I just make a key for each driver that may need to get onto that property (only 4) of them handle the properties with locks on them because they are all in the same area. If they weren't trustworthy enough to have keys they wouldnt be working here
     
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2013
  19. TGS Inc.

    TGS Inc. Senior Member
    from Detroit
    Messages: 569


    Sorry for the confusion...Bought the multi code clickers for 12.00 / each on ebay. We can program them ourselves.
     
  20. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,516

    They can be used for vehicles?