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Follow up - SIMA Symposium St. Louis

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by Chuck Smith, Jun 10, 2002.

  1. Chuck Smith

    Chuck Smith 2000 Club Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 2,317

    I think this year was even better than Denver. Many new faces, many new friends. I got to meet many PlowSite members for the first time. The educational sessions were great. I got to hear Dale Keep speak for the first time. He reminded me of Alan (on this forum) A LOT. In fact, Alan highly recommended Dale's session. I also noticed that Dale is now a SIMA member. Jeff Tovar & company gave a great presentation, and made the show a blast, especially "Rodney Dangerfield" (Steve).... he had us all rolling during the evening receptions. I got to chat with diggerman quite a bit, even though he has not posted here much this past year. I got tot meet Pine Island1 for the first time, as well as ceaman. As I posted in anothe thread, Mick, JD Plower and Ceaman were there amongst many, many, others. The nightlife was great too, seems like many really enjoyed it, judging from the times they returned to the hotel ( "We got back to the hotel at 3 am" , "We didn't get back until 7am" was heard almost every morning. :drinkup: )

    Dino, although not present, won a free pallet of Magic salt. There were a ton of manufacturer prizes given away. As posted in another thread, Blizzard Blades had a booth, and I can verify those wiper blades get hot. I will be contacting them for more info. I got tons of literature on new products, and as always, learned so much it still hasn't all sunk in yet.

    The CSP exam was given, and I anticipate quite a few new SIMA CSP's once the test results are known. The program seems to be taking off.

    I said it before, and I will repeat it, I missed not seeing Alan and Ray, BRL, Rob, JCurtis, and others. I hope they will be able to shuffle off to Buffalo next year.

    Tammy and the SIMA staff really outdid themselves this time!
    Thanks ladies! :waving:

    ~Chuck
     
  2. TurfPlus

    TurfPlus Senior Member
    Messages: 179

    I would like to thank SIMA and sponsors for putting on such a great event. I meet a lot of great people from PlowSite, SIMA and the industry. They all bring knowledge and professionalism to the snow and ice business. I was sorry to hear that many were unable to attend. I'm looking forward to Buffalo. Thanx again for a great time.
     
  3. JD PLOWER

    JD PLOWER PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 751

    Chuck, at the outdoor show somebody had a really great way of removing a sander from a pickup bed by using stands and a roller attached to the front of the box. Do you happen to know who manufactures it? It was attached to a monroe spreader if that helps :rolleyes: .

    This is what happens when you book late and have to stay at the neighboring hotel :eek:.
     
  4. TurfPlus

    TurfPlus Senior Member
    Messages: 179

    JD,
    Monroe made the self loader for that salt spreader. Cost was about $600. according to the salesmen. Looks like someone might be able to fab a self loading frame fairly simple.

    I stayed at a neighboring hotel and didn't have any problems except the long walk when cabs couldn't be found...especially at 3am....lol.

    John
     
  5. Chuck Smith

    Chuck Smith 2000 Club Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 2,317

    John beat me to it. It was Monroe. I however ;) got a few pics of it.

    ~Chuck

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  6. Chuck Smith

    Chuck Smith 2000 Club Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 2,317

    You can't see it in the above pic, but there is a poly roller all the way up front. Basically, you lower the rear assembly, jack up the back end, pull forward, then lower the front jack assembly, with the roller (sitting on the bed) still holding the weight of the front of the spreader. Jack up the front, then drive out. I have a bunch of pics, and will add all of them to my website soon.

    ~Chuck

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  7. Chuck Smith

    Chuck Smith 2000 Club Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 2,317

    Spoke to the Fisher rep, and he said the X Blade will be a VERY limited production run this year.

    ~Chuck

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  8. Chuck Smith

    Chuck Smith 2000 Club Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 2,317

    Another view....

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  9. TurfPlus

    TurfPlus Senior Member
    Messages: 179

    Chuck beat me to the pics but I have one of the poly roller.

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  10. CT18fireman

    CT18fireman Banned
    Messages: 2,133

    I think that setup is something that will be copied by the fabbers on this board. I know I am already tossing ideas in my head.
     
  11. JD PLOWER

    JD PLOWER PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 751

    Chuck and John thanks for the photos. Did anybody ask if they would sell this setup to the public even if they didn't have a monroe sander? It looks like it would bolt onto most of the 2 yd spreaders made today.

    Also did the fisher rep mention any details on the x blade like cost or weight? Thanks, JD.
     
  12. PINEISLAND1

    PINEISLAND1 PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 664

    The fisher SS (blade only) comes in at 495 lbs. for the 8', and 540 lbs. for the 9'.

    The salesman told me to add 10 % to the standard cost (of the same setup) to go with SS. That seems conservative to me, but that is what he said.
     
    Last edited: Jun 11, 2002
  13. cat320

    cat320 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,223

    I like that sander stand makes it very easy to mount and dismount with one person in what looks like minutes.:drinkup:
     
  14. CCLC

    CCLC Member
    Messages: 91

    That spreader stand was pretty cool. There were quite a few innovative things at the show. This was my first SIMA event and I throughly enjoyed it. I'm already making plans for Dale Keep's training this fall in Cleveland and SIMA next year in Buffalo.

    Congratulations to the planners. Job well done.
     
  15. ceaman

    ceaman Senior Member
    Messages: 372

    I too listened to Dale Keep speak and I thought it was very informitive and am looking for either the Chicago or Cleveland show this year. I want to pick his brain a bit more about liquid deicer usage.

    The discussion from Harvey Williams (IL dot) on "Peering into the future" had some amazing ideas about the direction techology will take snow removal and its safety.

    I also became a sima member while I was there.

    I was amazed at the profitability of some of the "snow only" companies that were there...

    I hope Dino makes good use of the "Magic"! :D
     
  16. CT18fireman

    CT18fireman Banned
    Messages: 2,133

    Very lightweight for a Fisher blade. That is the weight of the 7ft on my Toyota. Seems like quite an innovation if the frame can handle the stress. I would expect it has seen some testing.

    It does look like that stand could bolt up to a lot of spreaders. I would think one could be fabbed with some scrap and a few trailer tongue jacks.
     
  17. Chuck Smith

    Chuck Smith 2000 Club Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 2,317

    Due to the way the stainless bolts onto the X frame of the moldboard, it would be very easy to offer it in a poly version as well......

    Scuttlebutt says that the stainless will be available on V plows in the future too.

    As far as the weight issue, keep in mind stainless is much stronger than mild steel, and is a real #%^*@ to bend.

    As for the salter stand, it does look pretty easy to build. Though, parts and materials alone (new) could easily run $300. Add in electric for the welder, and an employee's hours to build it, and you would be right up near $600.

    Hmmmm..... Alan has not posted on this thread yet, I wonder if he is out in the garage building one already, LOL.

    Bobcat has come out with a new line.... I will post pics on my site soon.

    I saw Extenda-Plows... interesting idea. A rear plow for a pickup that expands to about 14', and a version that mounts on skid steers just as wide.

    ~Chuck
     
  18. Chuck Smith

    Chuck Smith 2000 Club Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 2,317

    This is the Meyer that wassupposed to be offered in an 8' version last year. Still no word on the 8'.

    ~Chuck

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  19. thelawnguy

    thelawnguy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,011

    There was a guy on here a couple years ago, (Lazer?) who had a setup patent pending, his extended 16', he posted plans and pictures here. Probably his setup.
     
  20. wxmn6

    wxmn6 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,037

    I'm wondering how many gauge is the stainless moldboard on the Fisher X blades? I thought that stainless weighs more than the regular steel but guess I was wrong. Looks like it is a great innovation because stainless never will rust, are stronger and lighter. It should be easier on the truck, especially on the front end. The only thing that would be a disadvantage is that it would scrap less than the heavier regular steel but I would not really worry about it. It looks like the Fisher X Blade would be the next plow I would buy in future.