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FF problems?

Discussion in 'Eureka Fluid Film' started by OhioPlower, Mar 10, 2013.

  1. OhioPlower

    OhioPlower Senior Member
    Messages: 440

    I undercoated 2 chevys last november, my dads 2012 1500 and my 2012 3500hd. I checked em today and they looked like I didnt spray them at all. I touched the frame and it took the paint off down to bare metal on BOTH trucks. Whats up with that? I might have had a similar issue in january 2012 but it might have been the salesman spilling urea on the frame.. not sure. I dont think FF is supposed to eat paint like this. Im thinking twice about doing them again in the fall. Anyone have similar issues?
     
  2. Laszlo Almasi

    Laszlo Almasi Senior Member
    Messages: 326

    Oh...that's not good at all.
     
  3. OhioPlower

    OhioPlower Senior Member
    Messages: 440

    Nope, Ill use it on my plows from now on, but not my trucks.
     
  4. snowish10

    snowish10 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,080

    The ff usually comes off but ive never heard taking paint off, after a while it comes off from areas thats always get hit with water, snow, salt.
     
  5. tuney443

    tuney443 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,847

    I have never had that happen on paint.Maybe your 2012 frame is some kind of wax rust preventative and FF doesn't react well with it.
     
  6. OhioPlower

    OhioPlower Senior Member
    Messages: 440

    Yeah I know it comes off after awhile. I figured there was something on the frame it didnt react well with.
     
  7. OnTheFarm

    OnTheFarm Member
    Messages: 54

    I did notice there was a mention of this issue on the Fluid Film site
    http://www.fluid-film.com/applications/winter_equipment/

    "Fluid Film may soften some vehicle undercoatings. Check with dealer/vehicle manufacturer as to compatibility. "

    Not sure if this is the same issue as you described.
     
  8. eurekadg

    eurekadg Junior Member
    Messages: 14

    When undercoating any vehicle it is very important that you check with the dealer and vehicle manufacturer in order to determine the compatibility.
     
  9. Red02F250

    Red02F250 Senior Member
    Messages: 109

    I've sprayed it on all sorts of stuff, never had a problem with it. Then again, I don't own anything Chevy, I like my stuff to work well. :p Just kidding!

    Seriously though, I could see it potentially reacting with or weakening a soft undercoating, but not causing actual paint to be removed.
     
  10. OnTheFarm

    OnTheFarm Member
    Messages: 54

    You are absolutely right. It is not paint. Those 2012's have a soft hot-wax applied undercoat protection. It's supposed to stay in place for a fairly long time if applied properly. I'd guess that as the wet Fluid Film sat on the outer surface of the hot-wax, the moisture was absorbed by the wax, and the wax lifted from the surface.
     
  11. Red02F250

    Red02F250 Senior Member
    Messages: 109

    Wow, that is rather strange. At least you can rest assured that the Fluid Film will protect the metal.
     
  12. kc2006

    kc2006 Senior Member
    Messages: 984

    Anyone else have issues spraying FF on new chevys? I was going to do the underside of my new 2500 but after reading this I'm thinking twice.
     
  13. secret_weapon

    secret_weapon Senior Member
    Messages: 437

    I like using FF but have had the same problem on previous trucks with it taking off the wax coating. There is a body shop supply store near my work called WilliamWolf, they carry a similar if not exact soft wax coating that can be sprayed on. It's called Rusfre 1000-6B(black) or C(clear). The clear is more of an amber color. I sprayed my current truck with this first before using FF.
     
  14. SNOWANDICEMAN

    SNOWANDICEMAN Senior Member
    Messages: 225

    I heard and seen 3 trucks that happen too.
     
  15. OnTheFarm

    OnTheFarm Member
    Messages: 54

    I don't really understand what would be accomplished by spraying Fluid Film over an existing wax undercoating. If you have a new vehicle, and it has a new factory wax undercoating on the undercarriage, I'd leave it alone. Maybe use Fluid Film inside the doors, frame rails, wheel wells, and other high rust areas. If the undercarriage on a new vehicle is allready coated, leave it alone until it starts to wear off, or you are not happy with it. You have to understand that almost any coating on top of a metal surface will stop corrosion to a certain degree, as long as it stay's in place. When it wears off, or you are not happy with it, that's when I would try the Fluid Film.
     
  16. Newdude

    Newdude Senior Member
    Messages: 878

    As others have stated, GM uses a wax dip coating on the frames of their trucks. You can wipe this stuff off before it is cured with your finger, I've seen it and done it. Its not paint.
     
  17. kc2006

    kc2006 Senior Member
    Messages: 984

    I tested a small area on my 2012 and wow it made the wax stuff just wipe off. I'll just spray the body and stay away from the frame.
     
  18. BUFF

    BUFF PlowSite Fanatic
    from FR NoCo
    Messages: 7,295

    8 1/2 month old thread and nothing from FF......What great customer service and product support...........:rolleyes:
     
  19. tuney443

    tuney443 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,847

    You have an excellent point Buff.What ever happened to that Dano guy and his woman sidekick?
     
  20. BUFF

    BUFF PlowSite Fanatic
    from FR NoCo
    Messages: 7,295

    They’ve probably moved on to another flock to fleece…..