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ez transfer problem

Discussion in 'Meyer / Diamond Products Discussion' started by MRNDAD, Oct 16, 2008.

  1. MRNDAD

    MRNDAD Junior Member
    Messages: 5

    Hi fellas..I hope someone can help me with this issue. This summer, I was given a diamond plow setup that used to be mounted on a 97 F-350. It is an 8 footer and appears to be a classic mount plow. It is obvious from looking at it that it has had very little use. I intend to mount it on a 2006 Chevy Duramax K3500 dump truck. About a month ago, I looked it up on the Meyers site using the EZ Transfer system and according to that, I could order a particular "mounting carton" and wiring harness to adapt this plow to my truck. I believe the mounting carton number was something like 17111, however I do not remember for sure. And I even had the number for the wiring harness but since have misplaced it. A few days ago, I decided it was time to order these parts from my local dealer and went back to the Meyers sight and relooked up everything on the EZ Transfer feature and now I am being told that the plow is non-transferable to my truck. When I first looked up the numbers and I got the part numbers I needed, I called my closest Meyers dealer here in Central NH and talked to the parts guy. He seemed rather nasty and acted like he was trying to talk me out of ordering the parts for some reason. He did look up the parts I wanted and did tell me that both were available and could be ordered. I guess I should have gone ahead at the time and ordered them but I failed to do so. However, that is water under the bridge now. I do want to order these items so I can mount the plow on my truck, but like I said, the EZ Transfer system now tells me that I can't do so. Any suggestions from anyone as to what I can do here? I have tried to find data plates on the plow setup to be able to determine exactly what plow I have but the only thing I can find is a marking on the pump that says "E-60H". As I said earlier, The fella gave me the complete setup to include all the mounting hardware off his Ford, The head unit, blade, and even the wiring harness and controller. I would prefer to buy the needed mounting parts from the manufacturer rather than going to a local welding/fab shop to have something custom built that may or may not work correctly. Thank you for any help I may get with this problem.
     
  2. AHammen

    AHammen Member
    Messages: 47

    Go to your Meyers dealer (or another parts dealer online if your local dealer is nasty) and tell them you need a Classic Mounting Carton for a 2006 Chevy 3500. As far as the wiring harness goes, the harness for the plow itself will work on your truck, the headlights may not. You will need the adapter to hook up to your style of headlight lamp (it may be the same lamp).
     
  3. B&B

    B&B PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,777

    17111 is the correct p/n for the mounting carton for you '06. And although Meyer phased out the EZ-Classic mounting series now (which is why it didn't show up on the ez-transfer guide) they are still available from most any Meyer dealer. CPW, Mill Supply, Equipment Specialists, are just a few on-line dealers that will carry this mount.

    The actual plow function wiring harness will need no modifications to work in your '06 but the lights will depending on which style of plow lights and which harness series you currently have now. If the lights are the Night Sabers with the two under hood mounted modules then you'll just need a set of headlight adapters for your '06.

    But if they're an older style (Dietz, Trucklite, etc) then you may need to upgrade the entire lighting system....just depends on what lighting system/harness you have now.
     
  4. Nascar24

    Nascar24 Senior Member
    Messages: 645

    Ok I think we need to clear things up a bit

    If it's an older Diamond plow set up it's more than likely a "Pull away System" which can be easily identified by having the spring loaded pins attached to the plows "A" frame?

    If this is the case I don't believe your going to find a pull away mount for the GMC.

    With that being said what you can do to use the plow is to purchase a Meyer Classic mount for the GMC then have a welding shop remove the spring pins, weld on a cross plate and a set of Meyer classic (2) hinges (part# 13011) to the cross plate, essentially converting the plow to a EZ Mount Classic type design. I have done several of these and a good competent welder can do the modification in 3-4 hours with the proper materials and equipment, not a big issue IMHO.

    If you plow is one of the Older Diamond plow with the ears with three holes in it, you can still do the same type of conversion. Once converted this plow IMHO will be a much more versital plow for future applications since it will fit any Meyer EZ Mount Classic mounting carton.

    As far as the lights go, B&B is correct, you'd be better off buying a new set of Saber lights with the modules http://www.meyerproducts.com/upload/forms/1-757%20R2%2007223%20Kit.pdf, you will also need a daytime running light kit http://www.meyerproducts.com/upload/forms/1-729%20R.pdf, You can re-wire your existing truck lights into a module circuit but it will take more than its worth in time and materials , just get a new Saber kit from Angelo's or on E-bay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MEYER-SABRE-PLOW-LIGHTS_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a570Q7c39Q3a1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem290268291873QQitemZ290268291873

    If you can post pictures of your plows A-frame where it attaches to your truck it would be certainy helpfull to figure out what you have.

    Jay
     
    Last edited: Oct 19, 2008
  5. MRNDAD

    MRNDAD Junior Member
    Messages: 5

    AHammen..B&B..NASCAR24...Thank you very much for your replies and help. It is greatly appreciated. Clears up a lot of the confusion I have been experiencing. I do have a local fabricator/welder stopping by my house this afternoon to see if he can build a frame for my truck that will match the plow as it sits. He said he can but needs to measure the Ford frame brackets and my trucks frame in order to see what he needs to build and then he can give me a price. According to the answer given to me by NASCAR24, even if I order the classic mount for my Duramax, I still need to have someone cut, weld, and alter it to fit the plow's A-frame mount anyways. So I will see if this man can fabricate the "box frame" that "Mounting carton 17111" shows that goes to the frame of my truck and then adapt the attachment points on the front of the Ford mounts that I have and can use the Fords clevis that goes with the rest of the A-frame rather than buying a new one.

    NASCAR24...the A-frame that you asked about does have the spring loaded pins, so I take it that the modifications have to be made anyways sooooo...I will see what this fella can come up with. I am making the assumption that due to your nickname, that you are a Nascar fan. I, too, am a NASCAR fan. My nickname, MRNDAD, was chosen because my oldest daughter works for MRN Radio and travels the NASCAR circuit every week. This past weekend she was in Martinsville and had a great time laughing at all the folks she works with because they were wandering around all wrapped up like winter had just set in and she was very comfy in a short sleeve shirt. She comes home here to Loudon twice a year for the June and September races and she always gets me passes so I can hang out with her on the infield and get to meet some pretty awesome people. She dates the gasman for Clint Bowyer and they are both coming home for Thanksgiving. I can hardly wait!! By the way...she says Jeff Gordon is a very nice fella to talk with....not arrogant or snobby...just a really great guy...unlike some others that have severe attitude problems.
     
  6. tuffstuff300ex

    tuffstuff300ex Junior Member
    from canada
    Messages: 3

    Hi my name is Donnie. I am having the same trouble with the dealer arround here. i took my plow 7.5 foot diamond plow off my 1992 f 150 4x4 and want to put on my 2003 f 250 super duty. the plow is an easy classic mount pull away with the loaded pins on the a frame. the dealer is telling me that it cannot be fitted to the truck. i bought this plow brand new in 2001. is there a mounting kit that will mount to my truck or do i have to make something fit? i went to the easy transfer site and it said use the 17112 carton. i don't see the same hook up as my old one with the pins on the a frame. this plow is just like new and did not want to buy a new one just to mount on my new truck. you would think that diamond corp would have the support for mounting older plows on newer trucks. If you guys could help it would be very helpfull and appreciated thanks Donnie...
     
  7. B&B

    B&B PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,777

    Yes your in the same situation. The actual Diamond style mounts have been out of production for a good while now. So unless you can find a used one or old inventory you'll need to purchase the Meyer EZ-Classic style mount for your '03 F250 and then modify your Diamond A-frame to fit the new mount.