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Experienced Plower's First Bid.

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by mikeTA95, Sep 24, 2013.

  1. mikeTA95

    mikeTA95 Junior Member
    Messages: 2

    Hey Guys,

    I am not new to plowing and salting, I've done it as a subcontractor for years for an hourly wage. I just was offered a golden opportunity to bid on a large property that I have both the staff and the equipment to maintain, and I'd like to go for it on my own.

    In the past I plowed/salted for another company for a flat fee based on inches. I've never had to put together a contract and submit a bid.

    I would be interested in hearing some of your methodology for establishing a good bid. Most specifically, how to price retainers and sidewalk shoveling. I most definitely do not want to be the low-baller, nor do I want to make a mistake and under-bid and go broke this winter.

    Any input would be a huge help! Thanks guys.
     
  2. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,554

    U may want to throw some details to the size of the site, hours their open, triggers, walks, etc.
     
  3. BC Handyman

    BC Handyman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,868

    Do you have proper insurance to plow your own contracts? As for shoveling, times hrs u estimate it will take by wage you want to get. Think best & worst case storms. As for retainers you can go many ways with that. Give us example of what you thinking/mean
     
  4. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    Your costs will very also if your staff is on the books or not are you looking for a seasonal bid or are you doing a per push
     
  5. mikeTA95

    mikeTA95 Junior Member
    Messages: 2

    Sorry, Here's some more information on the property:

    I calculated the lot at just over 250,000 sqft

    https://maps.google.com/maps?q=cher...F-8&ei=2N5CUvmQM_jK4AOa5YG4Cw&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAg

    It's an apartment complex. So, there will be vehicles in the lots at all times. There were no specifics given to me about creating a bid, so I don't know if they prefer per push or per season pricing. I feel per push is probably going to be better for me since snowfall here is unpredictable. Last year we got about 2" all season, a couple years before that we had multiple blizzards.

    I will be working with two plowing trucks and one loader. I also have a full bed salt box and a tailgate spreader. This would be my only contract.

    Since it's a large complex the triggers would be set pretty low for any snowfall. I haven't decided on that yet either.
     
  6. rjigto4oje

    rjigto4oje PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,298

    If that's your only contract charge by the season with all of your costs and its not a bad winter you will go broke for for example your average snow fall is 40 inches a year 10 events and you have a contract for 10 grand you will make 10 grand whether it snow or it doesn't you can also put in your contract anything above 40 inches is extra blizzards are extra and so on sorry for typos smartphones suck
     
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2013
  7. Wendia

    Wendia Inactive
    Messages: 15

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  8. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    What does your seasonal bid sheet look like?
     
  9. Wendia

    Wendia Inactive
    Messages: 15

    Hi Grandview! I don't have one because all of the accounts for my 3 plowers are per event. But I can put something together for you - I have a really detailed scope sheet that I can use as a basis. I'm going out of town for a few days, but I will post something here for you this weekend.
     
  10. Wayne Volz

    Wayne Volz Senior Member
    Messages: 694

    I know you've done this a long time

    If you are really looking for a comprehensive bid sheet for seasonal contracts we have it on our Quick Estimator CD.
     
  11. BC Handyman

    BC Handyman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,868

    lol they starting to fight over you GV, good thing you asked eh GV?
     
  12. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    I feel the love.just keep your hand out of my pocket.unless your a blonde chick
     
  13. Wayne Volz

    Wayne Volz Senior Member
    Messages: 694

    Too funny

    This time of the year does get a bit exciting. Work all year waiting on snow. I love it.
     
  14. Wendia

    Wendia Inactive
    Messages: 15

    Let me know if you want me to put something together Grandview or if you are interested in the "Quick Estimator CD" Wayne has to offer. Sorry, not blonde, but Italian girls can hold their own!!! ;)
     
  15. Wendia

    Wendia Inactive
    Messages: 15

    Here you go Grandview! It needs to be customized to make it site specific to each of your properties but I hope this helps.

    Kindly visit my website for this and other business forms for contractors. Here is a link to my residential snow removal service agreement that is immediately downloaded to your computer in MS Word (and compatible with Word for Mac) upon purchase (for only $12.99!). Thank you for letting me use this thread to advertise my website!

    http://www.contractorshelpdesk.com/category_s/1837.htm?searching=Y&sort=13&cat=1837&show=10&page=2!

    Please email me at wendi@contractorshelpdesk.com if you have any questions or don't see a form that you need!
     

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