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Employee Issues With Manual Trucks

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by KildonanSnowRem, Dec 31, 2015.

  1. KildonanSnowRem

    KildonanSnowRem Member
    Messages: 83

    For those of you who have manual trucks in your fleet, (plow trucks or shovel monkey trucks), do you ever face issues with incompetent employees burning the clutch?

    I am looking at picking up a new manual Chevy for the shovel crew. Do I just need to find competent employees? Is this an unnecessary concern?
     
  2. Rat_Power_78

    Rat_Power_78 Senior Member
    Messages: 176

    This has been an issue for us for several years. My feeling for a long time has been "if you are going to drive my trucks you will have to learn how to drive manual." It didn't seem right to me to have to change an existing fleet to fit the needs of employees that don't usually stick around for more than a season or two, especially in the case of our landscape trucks. Most of ours have pto-powered dumps which had always meant we needed manual trans.

    I don't think competency is the right way to put it. I'm convinced at this point it's a generation thing.
     
  3. Philbilly2

    Philbilly2 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,541

    I can't believe all these kids now a days have absolutely NO idea how to drive stick. If they were stuck in a desert 100 miles from any life form and walked up on a stick shift car or truck with the keys in it, they would die right there.

    My wife is one of these people by the way. I tried to teach her to drive stick multiple different times and found that it would be best for my marriage if I just let her die in a desert with the rest of them, because if she dumped that damn clutch one more time, I was going to rip her head off. I'll take my chances with the desert. :eek:
     
  4. KildonanSnowRem

    KildonanSnowRem Member
    Messages: 83

    I am of the younger generation and am not the greatest at stick, but the price difference on the truck I am looking at makes me want to become an overnight expert lol.

    Do you have any issues finding people that already know how to drive stick? Would you invest time to train new employees to drive stick?
     
  5. Philbilly2

    Philbilly2 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,541

    Stick in a plow truck gets old... but your left leg will be like Hans and Frans - Pumped UP by the end of a long event.

    If you are pushing parking lots, I personally would not recommend it. If you are doing rally routes of streets or residential drives, they are not bad. But being stuck in a stick shift truck plowing back and forth for days in a blizzard will about make you crippled.
     
  6. Snow Commandor

    Snow Commandor Senior Member
    from 07666
    Messages: 439

    You're absolutely right about it being a generation thing. I find it's nearly impossible to find anyone to drive my 93 stick shift dump that we use for the landscape maintenance. Just sucks for me to be the only qualified driver of my dump!
     
  7. BUFF

    BUFF PlowSite Fanatic
    from FR NoCo
    Messages: 7,192

    I prefer a stick and never owned a vehicle with an auto up until the '15 Ford Super Duty I bought this year.
    Seems in urban area's it's harder to find people that can run a stick than in rural area's. There are some people that just don't seem to understand how to drive a stick and IMO if they can't figure that out do you really want them working for you?
     
  8. KildonanSnowRem

    KildonanSnowRem Member
    Messages: 83

    True enough.
     
  9. WIPensFan

    WIPensFan PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,485

    The labor pool to choose from now is very limited to say the least. Don't make it worse for yourself by further limiting your potential candidates by having to know how to drive a stick shift. Stick with auto trans and make your life less complicated.
     
  10. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    There are guys who know how to use a stick,but some of them tend to ride the clutch..Drove a manual Chevy plow truck for 16 yrs with my old company. After I left, the owner sold it because he didn't like using it. Unless you owned a old Neon or Fiesta or high performance car, not many cars even come with a stick .to lean with.
     
  11. thesnowman269

    thesnowman269 Senior Member
    Messages: 947

    This is the reason I've started to switch to automatic transmission trucks. If you hire someone that has no experience driving a manual, but take the time to teach them how. That's all fine and dandy, hook the trailer with a few thousand pounds behind him and see what happens. At least that has always been my fear
     
  12. horizon jay

    horizon jay Member
    Messages: 99

    This is amazing! :laughing: Also why I stopped "teaching" as well.
     
  13. JustJeff

    JustJeff 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,017

    Exactly. I if I was buying dedicated plow trucks for my own fleet I wouldn't even consider buying a manual. Why limit my already small potential labor pool?
     
  14. iceyman

    iceyman 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,536

    When i bought my ford f250 in 08 i had to pay extra to get it in a 5speed. You rarely see manual cars at all anymore
     
  15. BUFF

    BUFF PlowSite Fanatic
    from FR NoCo
    Messages: 7,192

    Why would you have to pay more for a manual trans (assuming it was a gas truck) a auto is was a upcharge when there was a choice.
     
  16. Randall Ave

    Randall Ave PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,907

    Iv'e taught people to drive sticks, but there are some people who just can not do it. One guy was a stubborn cop. He just plain didn't get it.
    I had a Chrysler Le Baron, 2.2 turbo 5 speed. Got it for couple hundred bucks, bad turbo. Got a used turbo for nothen. That thing was d@m fun to drive.
     
  17. iceyman

    iceyman 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,536

    Because it falls under a special order. Forget how much extra but it was def more than an auto on lot
     
  18. BUFF

    BUFF PlowSite Fanatic
    from FR NoCo
    Messages: 7,192

    Both my kids learned how to drive a stick when they were 13yrs old on 2track roads at my uncles ranch. Manual trans is all we owned until this year.
     
  19. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    When I buy my estimating mustang,it will have a stick so no one else can drive it.
     
  20. BUFF

    BUFF PlowSite Fanatic
    from FR NoCo
    Messages: 7,192

    Well you got hosed on that deal....... I bought a new '08 6.4PSD CC with a 6spd stick. I told the my local dealer what I wanted, they did a search and found one on lot in Billings Mt equipped the way I wanted. My local dealer swapped one of their inventoried trucks for the one in Billings, they met 1/2 way and didn't charge me anything for it.