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Edge Juice or Smarty

Discussion in 'Ram Trucks' started by provfirescott, Dec 16, 2009.

  1. provfirescott

    provfirescott Senior Member
    from Ma
    Messages: 101

  2. Deco

    Deco Senior Member
    Messages: 453

    Last edited: Dec 16, 2009
  3. bh115577

    bh115577 Senior Member
    Messages: 106

    I've been using an Edge programer for 4 years with my 2000 2500 Ram and it works great. The juice with attitude is supposed to be a good programer with all the guages built in.
     
  4. exmark1

    exmark1 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,321

    I have an Edge juice w/Attitude monitor in my 2003 Dodge diesel. It's an amazing system, the power is good, the milage did go up (not quite what they claim however)

    I think it was well worth the money
     
  5. provfirescott

    provfirescott Senior Member
    from Ma
    Messages: 101

    Isnt SCT Ford only?
     
  6. got-h2o

    got-h2o 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,439

    I'd go with the smarty hands down. Edge has had its share of problems and I gave up on them years ago. The smarty is supposed to be badass on the Dodges. And yes, SCT=Ford just like EFI Live=GM.
     
  7. sno commander

    sno commander PlowSite.com Addict
    from ct
    Messages: 1,061

    running the regular smarty is too much for a stock truck. you need a upgraded tranny a good lift pump and gauges. id go for the smarty jr once you get gauges. if you really want to spend money on your truck id invest in a 2 micron fuel filter setup.
     
  8. jay723

    jay723 Member
    from SE CT
    Messages: 30

    Definetely go with the smarty. I have run the edge, superchips and currently running smarty. I am blown away with the power. EGT temps are lower. They have thought of everything. Buy the smarty not the JR. You can safely run the lower program without mods. The POD is a waste of money, once you install the program you will not need to change power levels on the fly. The edge ran my temps way up. I have an 05 also.
     
  9. provfirescott

    provfirescott Senior Member
    from Ma
    Messages: 101

    why not just bye the Smarty Pod06 and then do the upgrades down the line and not run it on higher settings
     
  10. U1200

    U1200 Member
    Messages: 33

    Smarty without a doubt.
     
  11. JDiepstra

    JDiepstra PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,780

    It's either the Edge Juice or the Smarty with gauges. I don't think I gained much, if any mileage from the Edge. With a revo program, the Smarty is far more adjustable than the Edge, but you don't get any safety backdowns, alarms, or gauges. It really is a toss up. I'd say go Edge if you aren't going to run gauges with the Smarty. Or, go Smarty if you will be running gauges. One thing I have found is that the intake air temp reading on the Edge is very helpful when you are running around with your plow on. You can usually find a great deal on a gently used Edge Juice w Attitude at www.cumminsforum.com, in the classified section. I'm talking half what they are new.
     
  12. JustinD

    JustinD Senior Member
    Messages: 343

    Smarty, no question.
     
  13. JDiepstra

    JDiepstra PlowSite.com Addict
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  14. JustinD

    JustinD Senior Member
    Messages: 343

    :D Imfamous 6 leaker!!!
     
  15. cmo18

    cmo18 Senior Member
    Messages: 815

    I have an 06, and have been peaking around at programmers. I'd like to put gauges in my truck but not right away. Everyone says Smarty is the way to go, but my truck is stock and will stay stock until its needs to be fixed. Can I have the Smarty and not destroy my truck? Or is the safest option the Smarty JR? Do they have to be hardwired into your truck?
     
  16. JustinD

    JustinD Senior Member
    Messages: 343

    Just run the smarty on a lower level, if you are reasonable you will be ok, gauges are a good idea even with a stock truck IMO.
     
  17. cmo18

    cmo18 Senior Member
    Messages: 815

    Reasonable?

    I'm a guy, and yes i love punching my truck but I'm not a nut and I love seen good mileage. Anyone I've talked to said they ran a smarty and had to put a new tranny....
     
  18. JustinD

    JustinD Senior Member
    Messages: 343

    I know a couple guys running the Smarty on CR Dodges, one is an 07 Mega Cab and the other is an 04 dually both love it, the guy with the Mega Cab runs his on lvl 7 not sure what it adds but he has had his trans chatter and act funny, but if you run the lower hp levels on a daily basis you should be ok, then if you ever had the trans built you wouldn't have to upgrade the tuner.
     
  19. cmo18

    cmo18 Senior Member
    Messages: 815

    That true, I wish I knew more about them. Can you turn torque management off? Or is a lower level tune turn the torque management off?
     
  20. cmo18

    cmo18 Senior Member
    Messages: 815

    Could I get a list of Gauges that would be important as well??