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dump truck tail gate spreader?

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by c.t. lawn care, Jan 26, 2008.

  1. c.t. lawn care

    c.t. lawn care Senior Member
    Messages: 147

    To thoes that use one of these how do they work? all of the pictures that i have seen looks like you would dump all of the salt right past the salter. is there some feness that has to be used with it or do they flip up and replace the rear tail gate? I am looking at getting a f-450 this year and was debating between a tailgate mouned one or a v-box and was interested in the taigate mounted one because i could store it easier in the off seasons. If you have any pictures please share them with me.

    Thanks
    Craig
     
  2. motorider000

    motorider000 Senior Member
    Messages: 110

    i have one on my international 4700. The salt piles up against the tailgate over the spreader auger. The taller the tailgate the easier it is. Mine is 33 inches tall so it holds alot of salt. You just do not want to dump too much to the rear of the truck or the bed won't go down easily. Usually as soon as you feel the load slide you want to lower the bed. But you can close the top of the spreader and use the truck during the winter for hauling loads by flipping two levers and taking the spinner off.
     
  3. andrewlawnrangr

    andrewlawnrangr Senior Member
    Messages: 339

    you want central hydro unit then. with central hydro you can run the salter and your plow . i have a friend that has an f-550 with C/H and he loves it. as far as spreading salt his spreading bolts on with 4 bolts ( ss buyers ) and 4 connections for hydro and one grease fitting. my v box has like 6 or 7
    C/H is far better than a v box but if it goes down then the truck is useless

    i would go with a C/H truck over a V box
    good luck '
     
  4. itsgottobegreen

    itsgottobegreen PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,351

    Undertailgate and central hydraulics. Its the only way to salt. :nod:
     
  5. cet

    cet PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,202

    You can have a V box with central hydraulics, I have 2. They cost more and weigh more then a tailgate model. Your vision is also better with a tailgate salter. A V box will spread salt much faster then a tailgate, you don't have to keep raising the box to feed salt to the salter.
     
  6. itsgottobegreen

    itsgottobegreen PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,351

    I would have to dissagree. Unless your running a 8+ yard state style V box. A auger drive under tail gate with the dump bed running off the centrals will work faster than a hydro v box. You can get the bed to full tilt in under 10 seconds. Get the salt to slide back, drop bed and spreader for a good 5 to 10 mins, then do it again. Or just drive with the bed up at about 20 degrees. You can have the auger move more salt than the drag chain on a V box. As the auger has a faster speed. Along with the fact its got lots of moving parts, where the undertailer (not inlcuding the bed) has 2, auger and spinner.
     
  7. cet

    cet PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,202

    I think both would work well in some situations. I don't think salt would flow at 20 degrees, not well anyways. It you are salting properties that take more then 2 tons of salt then a tailgate would work well. A lot of my sites take less then 1,000 lbs. We drive in hit the switch and go. There is always salt there until empty. We also use one of the V boxes to fill salt bins. With the door fully open we can dump 1,000 lbs in less then 30 seconds. You can also buy V boxes with augers instead of drag chains if you think they move more salt.

    They both will work but for us having electric hydraulic dump box which is slow the V box is much faster.
     
  8. itsgottobegreen

    itsgottobegreen PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,351

    I know swenson makes V boxes with augers. Which would be the only way I would buy a V box. But that makes the price really jump up.

    I would agree with the electric over hydraulic dump, yes a V is much faster. I know a few people who have bought those new truck craft undertailgates after seeing how fast my central hydro driven truck works. Thinking it will just be as fast, but in fact is very slow along with the major power drain on the truck. Its almost painfully slow.
     
  9. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,046

    Hydraulic V Boxes are the only way to go. A taigate salter to me is a PITA. Whats wrong with a bed chain, seems to me most of the roads everwhere are salted with a V-box style spreader. I see so many dumps with V-boxes in them because the guys got tired of the tailgate spreaders. My smallest place takes 2 ton, so a tailgate might work better on smaller properties but I don't think so. The one 8 yard V-Box I'm running is over 27 years old and still works like new. Augers are good but don't leave salt in them for very long or you will be shovelling, chains are better IMO.
     
  10. Jay brown

    Jay brown PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,783

    sorry if i'm hyjacking but does anyone experience slow hydrolic flow when the temp gets really cold(0 deg), and then it'll speed up after about 20 minutes of running? o, i like v boxes too
     
  11. xtreem3d

    xtreem3d PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,548

    yes.. the fluid needs to warm up to flow better
     
  12. Duncan90si

    Duncan90si Senior Member
    Messages: 602

    I agree 100%. I love C/H tailgate spreaders.

    Better visibilty.
    Can haul more salt. (maybe not legally ;))
    You can still haul other things than salt easier than removing a v box.
    A simpler design generally speaking.
    When raising the bed, on most 1 ton dump trucks the spinner can be low enough to throw the salt right underneath cars without even touching the paint.

    With how much I like them, you think I would own one. :)
     
  13. LON

    LON Senior Member
    Messages: 749

    We use a custom blended AW/ISO 15 or 10. The Agip plant isn't too far from us and this flows really well in cold temps.
    Lon
     
  14. LON

    LON Senior Member
    Messages: 749

    For a different approach............

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  15. danmc

    danmc Member
    Messages: 84

    This season i've used a conveyor fed v box (an old air flow), a snowex v box (which uses an auger to move the salt to the spinner and an under tailgate spreader (central hydraulic). the central hydraulic under tailgate spreader is by far the best. there are other benefits that were not mentioned. at the end of the storm when there's salt left in the body i just close the salter door , raise the bed and dump the salt. with the v boxes you have to run the salt out which can take quite a bit of time....
     
  16. Neige

    Neige Sponsor
    Messages: 2,197

    Wow love the look of that tailgate spreader. Is it possible to lower the spinner, find it high. I would worry about damaging cars when driving by.